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Alright, since this is the General Gaming and Hardware forum I thought this the best place to ask, I'm getting a new computer sometime soon and I thought to maybe ask some stuff to people that seem like they'd know their stuff since I'm not the greatest person with this stuff. -_-

Anywho

Here's the general things, do you think this would be good?

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-EG45M-UD2H $139.99
Processor: intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6700 $189.99
Processor Fan: Infinity basic fan - extra cool heavy duty $19.99
Case: NZXT Nemesis Elite Black $99.99
Case Fan: RCTIC COOLING Arctic Fan 12L $18.99
Power Supply: COOLMAX V-500 500W ATX $39.99
Memory: 4GB PC6400 800MHz DDR-2 $44.99
Memory Heatspreader $14.99
Memory Install As Dual Channel $9.99
Harddrive: 1TB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB $119.99
Harddrive Cooler $9.99
Optical Drive: 20X SATA DVD+/-RW $29.99
Video Card: GeForce GTX 260 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI $219.99
Operating System: Vista Home Basic 64 bit $99.99
3 Year Warranty Parts And Labor $19.99
Assembly $9.99

Nothing's set in stone, so if anything is bad or wouldn't do well together it can be changed if need be.

*Pricing Added
*Changed Vid Card Again
*Changed Motherboard
*Changed Memory
*Changed Processor
*Changed Harddrive
*Changed Case
*Removed Sound Card
 
Why two crappy video cards? I suggest you rather get one that is good. Single 9800GT or HD4850 for example would be better. Or if you can go higher, grab HD4870.
 
What would you suggest is good?

nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1GB

Something like that?

GeForce GTX 260 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI

Or would anything like that be necessary?
 
The Raging Russian said:
Or would anything like that be necessary?
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Nothing higher than 9800 GT is really necessary nowadays, I myself have a single 8800GTS 512, which is about 5-10% more powerful, and it's enough to play most games on max settings. But if I would be buying a PC now I'd probably grab something like HD4870 1GB or GTX260. Depends on your pockets.
 
I don't really have money to blow, but I am looking for something real good, not really anything amazing, but I wanna be able to play games on high and the such.

Where I'm getting it that GTX260 isn't much more expensive than the 9800 so it just depends on which one really works better.

Aside from graphics cards you think the rest is good?

The thing I'm worried about is mobo really, I've heard Asus is the way to go but not sure if that's true.
 
The Raging Russian said:
The thing I'm worried about is mobo really, I've heard Asus is the way to go but not sure if that's true.
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Sometimes. If your board ends up DOA or defective or something, you're in for a hellish time dealing with their RMA ass-raping service that involves sending you a non-working "refurbished" board as a replacement. At least that's how it was the last time I checked. Could have changed. The only motherboard brand that I swear by is Gigabyte.
 
I see, are Gigabyte really good or just very convinient if the board ends up being screwed?

If they are better what would be a good mobo to pick from a Gigabyte line?

Something like this? GIGABYTE GA-EG45M-UD2H Core 2 Quad
 
The Raging Russian said:
I see, are Gigabyte really good or just very convinient if the board ends up being screwed?
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Really really good, but their customer service actually isn't much better than Asus'. (Or so I hear. I've owned about 5 Gigabyte boards myself, and haven't had any issue, so I cannot speak from experience.) In fact, I'm not aware of many motherboard manufacturers that aren't Jews about replacements, save for maybe EVGA. The reason I bring up Asus' replacement service is that they, at least for a while, have had pretty shoddy reliability on a number of their models.

The Raging Russian said:
If they are better what would be a good mobo to pick from a Gigabyte line?

Something like this? GIGABYTE GA-EG45M-UD2H Core 2 Quad
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That one is good, but if you want to save money I'd recommend the GA-EP43-DS3LR. Mind the type of memory the boards support, and the number of PCI-E slots if you want to use multiple graphics card (you really shouldn't).

EDIT: What the fuck, the motherboard I recommended must have been unlisted on Newegg like... Today. Whatever, just pick one that looks good to you. None of the P43/P45 based boards from Gigabyte are outright shit.
 
Where I'm getting it the GA-EG45M-UD2H isn't much more expensive than the GA-EP43-DS3LR you reccomended, would I be better going with the UD2H?

Next I was also thinking about the processor.

intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q8200 2.33GHz 1333MHz 4MB is what I'm looking at.

Do you think it'd be enough?
 
That's a dandy processor. The only problems with it are the fact that it doesn't support hardware virtualization (which is most likely useless to you anyways), has only 4mb of shared cache instead of 4mb x 2 or more (the performance impact of which is only noticeable in certain scenarios), and has a 7x multiplier, which is rather low. Don't let this paint a bad picture about it, though - it's absolutely great if you want to have a quad core.

Alternatively, a dual-core such as the E8400 is a better choice if you want to overclock due to a higher multiplier. Dual-cores can be better for gaming as well, since most games do not take advantage of four cores.


BOTTOM LINE: That's a great processor choice, especially for multitasking. If you encode music/video and do a lot of de/compression, you're going to adore it. A dual-core can give you slightly better performance in many games, though.
 
Ah I see, if I was to end up going with a Dual instead of Quad would this be efficient?

intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8500 3.16GHz 1333MHz 6MB

I think I'll end up staying with my Quad though.

Anyhow, next thing is my choice for Power Source, is that good or would it take a better Source?
 
Leon said:
A dual-core can give you slightly better performance in many games, though.
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But performance will be just fine with quad core as well, and in near future there might be more demanding games coming out, which will require quad core to run properly, like GTA IV PC. I'd go with quad core.

The Raging Russian said:
intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8500 3.16GHz 1333MHz 6MB
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I have E8400 (3Ghz), it's runs fine any game except GTA IV. However I wouldn't buy dual core if I were to buy a PC now.
 
Keeping the Quad, would my earlier choice be better than this?

intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6700 2.66GHz 1066MHz 8MB
 
TRR said:
intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8500 3.16GHz 1333MHz 6MB
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Sure, but the E8400 is cheaper and nearly identical, plus it overclocks pretty much the same.

TRR said:
I think I'll end up staying with my Quad though.
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I would! I just want you to be aware of your options, though.

As for a power source, anything made by Corsair is typically the recommended bang4buck choice. Great reliability, good prices. Use this to figure out about how much power your build is going to use. Add at least 50 watts to the total you get from that to be safe, and obviously more if you want more headroom for future expansion.


Multidirectional said:
But performance will be just fine with quad core as well, and in near future there might be more demanding games coming out, which will require quad core to run properly, like GTA IV PC. I'd go with quad core.
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Sure, which is why I recommend it. It's just that for the same price point as a 2.33ghz quad, one can get a 3.0ghz dual, which will yield higher performance in the majority of games out now and in the near future.

Still, though, the quad core is worth it. Four cores, goddamn.


Also, sorry for being so jumbled. I haven't been able to sleep, which does this to me.


EDIT: Fuck, slow postan'.

EDITEDIT: Keep the Q8200. It's pretty much identical to the Q6600 in performance, and the Q6600/Q6700 aren't worth the extra cost in comparison.
 
Do you think the Harddrive and the Memory is good enough?

Anyhow, as for being jumbled and such, it's fine, you've been a great help thus far, I do say thanks for all this and the rest of help you could offer. ^^

Edit: As for the price between that 8200 and the 6700, it's only about $10 more for the 6700 where I'm getting it, so the price isn't really a factor on that part, just which one performs better.
 
Your hard drive seems like it'd be fine, but what's the make and model?

Corsair is good memory, but make sure that you're picking a kit that's compatible with your motherboard. No DDR3 in a DDR2-based mobo, mang.

Oh, and that case. Stay away from anything Apevia. No sense in getting nice components with a jank-ass case. Cooler Master and Antec are good brands.

Edit: $10? Hm. Well, the Q6700 should have a slight edge on it, but it'll also be a slightly hotter, more power-hungry processor due to its 65nm manufacturing process compared the to Q8200's 45nm. Your call.
 
I could make the Harddrive 1TB SATA/300 7200RPM 32MB instead of the 500GB SATA/300 7200RPM 8MB.

Would it be worth $60 to bump it up though?
 
The Raging Russian said:
Would it be worth $60 to bump it up though?
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That's entirely up to you. The 1TB will obviously have more storage, and the extra cache will improve performance a bit. As far as the actual read/write speeds, that depends on the number and size of the platters, and... Well, let's not get into that. Suffice to say that the 1TB drive will not be worse in any way unless it's a first-gen Seagate 7200.11. Those had a nasty firmware bug, but I'm fairly certain that they are no longer on the market.
 
I'll go with the 1TB I guess, it's not too much to spend $60 to get a good amount more storage and such, also, so the Apevia case is a bad choice?

How about NZXT, are their cases any good?
 
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