Were Vertibirds developed before the war?
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coliphorbs
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If you consider FO3 canon, they were developed before the war. They appear in the Museum of Technology. I don't remember if there was more detailed info about them in FO2, so I don't know where this article draws it's information from:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/VB-02_Vertibird
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/VB-02_Vertibird
I think they're identified in Fallout 2 is pre-war prototypes, but I'm pretty sure they were never taken into production until the Enclave did so after the war.
Not 100% sure though. Ausir will know.
Not 100% sure though. Ausir will know.
Source?
Wait, actually, Matthew says in FO2:
It is Bethesda that made them a pre-War prototype, but I don't see anything canon-breaking here ("developed" can be interpreted in various ways, and the Enclave has pre-war origins, plus the Brotherhood of Steel might simply not know that it was a pre-war prototype that didn't even enter full scale production).
It is Bethesda that made them a pre-War prototype, but I don't see anything canon-breaking here ("developed" can be interpreted in various ways, and the Enclave has pre-war origins, plus the Brotherhood of Steel might simply not know that it was a pre-war prototype that didn't even enter full scale production).
Chancellor Kremlin
Mildly Dipped
I was annoyed the first time I saw it. I mean, a helicopter? Is that really the kind of technology we would have in 2070 + 200 years?
Right now we have something very similar, its called the V-22 Osprey, only a tad larger. I was expecting some kind of cool hovercraft, or something like that.
The Vertibird is one of the things I hate most in FO2 (Seriously). To me its what 'New Reno' is to others.
Right now we have something very similar, its called the V-22 Osprey, only a tad larger. I was expecting some kind of cool hovercraft, or something like that.
The Vertibird is one of the things I hate most in FO2 (Seriously). To me its what 'New Reno' is to others.
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Seriously, dropships are way overdone in fiction. Plus, choppers crash and burn much cooler.
Seriously, dropships are way overdone in fiction. Plus, choppers crash and burn much cooler.
Alphadrop
A right proper chap.
True and copters make a cooler sound.
Also unlike the Osprey, the Vertibird doesn't break down if someone sneezes near it.
Also unlike the Osprey, the Vertibird doesn't break down if someone sneezes near it.
The Osprey would look awesome as a Dropship, though.
Chancellor Kremlin
Mildly Dipped
Mikael Grizzly said:
Have you played Half Life Opposing Force? Great intro sequence with one of those... speaking of which whatever happened to Cpl.Adrian Shepherd? I miss him...
TheRatKing
Vault Dweller
In Episode 3, it will all come together...
No seriously, I think he's in some stasis state.
No seriously, I think he's in some stasis state.
Chancellor Kremlin
Mildly Dipped
TheRatKing said:
I think they are waiting to 'unleash him'.
coliphorbs
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
As far as I know, Valve doesn't consider OpFor and Blue Shift as canon at all.
Chancellor Kremlin
Mildly Dipped
coliphorbs said:
You are wrong.
Alphadrop said:True and copters make a cooler sound.
Also unlike the Osprey, the Vertibird doesn't break down if someone sneezes near it.
You think the Osprey is bad you should see our Canadian SeaKing helicopters. The pilots are trained extensively for when (because it will happen) the helicopter craps out and spins into the ocean. Oh dear, our army....... anyway as for the topic at hand, do you not steal the vertibird plans for the BoS (or Shi) from the army base in Fallout 2? That would lead me to believe it was a pre-war schematic thus at least a portion of its development was pre war. As for the assembly of the metal beast, perhaps the Enclave had it more together then I thought? If thats the case they should get someone to better train the pilots how to fly the damn things so they don't putter out over Modoc.
I'm generally inclined to trust Ausir, who could probably beat Chris Avellone himself, Fallout Bible in hand, at a round of FO trivia.
If you're looking for more than that, though, just go back to the Vertibird model in the museum of technology and read the plaque next to it. Their official info didn't have the things in development until the 2080s. As it seems the museum was pretty up-to-date when DC was bombed, logic must dictate that it was a pre-war plan and that the bulk of the post-prototype work was done by The Enclave after the bombs fell. (Unless, of course, they had already been secretly building their fleet in anticipation of what was to come, but anything down that avenue of thought, however likely or unlikely, would just be conjecture.)
As far as the design goes, it isn't a perfect fit for the setting, but I've never really minded the things. Their design, along with the Enclave power armor, had a kind of ominous, otherworldly insectoid thing going for it that I thought was well in keeping with a lot of pulp sci-fi... It just wasn't drawn from quite the same vein, or naturalized into the setting as skillfully, as the pulp inspirations of the first game.
If you're looking for more than that, though, just go back to the Vertibird model in the museum of technology and read the plaque next to it. Their official info didn't have the things in development until the 2080s. As it seems the museum was pretty up-to-date when DC was bombed, logic must dictate that it was a pre-war plan and that the bulk of the post-prototype work was done by The Enclave after the bombs fell. (Unless, of course, they had already been secretly building their fleet in anticipation of what was to come, but anything down that avenue of thought, however likely or unlikely, would just be conjecture.)
As far as the design goes, it isn't a perfect fit for the setting, but I've never really minded the things. Their design, along with the Enclave power armor, had a kind of ominous, otherworldly insectoid thing going for it that I thought was well in keeping with a lot of pulp sci-fi... It just wasn't drawn from quite the same vein, or naturalized into the setting as skillfully, as the pulp inspirations of the first game.
Well, you can clearly see a Vertibird in this screenshot:
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=3434
If you consider that it is taken from the DC "Fallout 3: Operation Anchorage" one could argue that Vertibirds weren't prototypes anymore when the great war began.
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=3434
If you consider that it is taken from the DC "Fallout 3: Operation Anchorage" one could argue that Vertibirds weren't prototypes anymore when the great war began.
Operation: Anchorage is a VR simulation, which doesn't have to be a 100% recreation of the events. They could have tested their new prototypes in the VR environment first.
And, of course, they could have tested one or two prototypes in military situations before going into full production.
And, of course, they could have tested one or two prototypes in military situations before going into full production.