What the fuck happened to Fallout 4's weapons?

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by ThatZenoGuy, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    I recall hearing such, yes.

    Shame.
     
  2. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    Alien Resurrection is awful. Alien 3 isn't great but I feel there's some good in it and it doesn't deserve all the shit it gets. Just most of it.

    Really though nothing tops Alien. Not even Aliens.

    I think it's ridiculous that the Institute has amazing technology and can build synthetic humans so perfectly yet their weapons are complete shit in comparison to Pre-War lasers. Blue lasers apparently don't hurt as much.
     
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  3. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Why didn't they just use that failed FEV expirement thing as their supermutant? Give it a new name.
     
  4. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Ironically blue lasers are the most powerful for their output... XD
     
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  5. Shardik

    Shardik Still Mildly Glowing

    291
    Nov 5, 2015
    I suspect the reason they went with that script had more to do with what the marketing department dictated to be used than anything else.
     
  6. SarcasticGoodGuy

    SarcasticGoodGuy *R O T T E N*

    Aug 31, 2016
    I think it's also crazy how rich CEOs of evil pre-war boogeymen companies made their own guns out of toilet roll holders and duct tape... instead of just buying their own guns. Was inflation really that bad?

    And on the topic of inflation, how the hell are two unemployed people raising a baby in Fallout 4's opening? How can they afford a fucking domestic robot? Oh shit I remembered, Bethesda retconned everything so that the pre-war world was the greatest thing ever.
     
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  7. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    You mean pipe guns? :smug:

    Careful, I think I can hear Greed lurking in the vents. :eek:

    EDIT: Actually I might mean Phipps.
     
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  8. SarcasticGoodGuy

    SarcasticGoodGuy *R O T T E N*

    Aug 31, 2016
    Yeah I member.
     
  9. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    Oh come on, we were talking about Alien movies. Surely this is more fitting?

     
  10. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Nov 26, 2007
    Everything in the IP is magic Fallout sauce to them; (because they cannot make any more of it). So they dress their ideas in the misused trappings of Fallout; [Bottle Caps, Supermutants, Enclave, Power Armor, a wrongly perceived 1950's mania, and FEV].

    They can't ever get it right, because they see wood-chips, and think forest.
     
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  11. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    But the failed FEV experiment was a new creation in the game. They had it they just didn't use it. It'd make sense to because the master had refined the FEV to get SMs. So without it being worked on it would produce something like that. Missed opportunity
     
  12. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Nov 26, 2007
    By that do you mean a name without 'FEV' in it? If so, that is what I meant. They use the name because it's FEV... "and that's Fallout right? See? Our's has FEV too!"

    I do believe they are more inclined to recycle the IP names than to create new ones... or ~heaven forbid, not use one they've paid for. :(
     
  13. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Ii meant give the failed FEV experiment a new name and use them as fallout 3's super mutant.
     
  14. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Nov 26, 2007
    Not a bad idea... if one ignores the decision to include supermutants [and/or FEV] in FO3. The monster itself didn't look bad.
     
  15. Radiosity

    Radiosity Writiosity

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    Sep 9, 2015
    Greed apparently doesn't understand the game industry. Like... at all. The one thing you DO NOT DO is overtly criticise another company/dev/pub/whatever. Not if you want to continue working in the industry. Chris, Josh, any of them, they're not going to openly rag on Fallout 3/4 because the next game company they might want to work for could well be Bethesda... and oh look, Chris Avellone is working on Prey 2, a Bethesda project.
     
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  16. Ilosar

    Ilosar Vault Fossil

    Apr 20, 2010
    Especially since so many are found in safes. How useless is that? And how can someone afford a big, reinforced safe, but not a gun that doesn't look like it would rather explode in your hands than fire.

    And meanwhile, everyone in the Wasteland and their mother runs around toting hunting rifles, shotguns, magnums, and the Gunners are somehow able to arm almost everyone with energy weapons. You can generally find so many (still functional!) weapons around that you start throwing them away in the trash after a while. But pre-war people were apparently all stuck with pipe weapons. Yeah, that makes sense.
     
  17. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Nov 26, 2007
    A Bethesda product that [again,] has little if anything (or nothing at all) to do with the original game ~sans the name. Yet another reputation piggy-back title from them.
     
  18. Ilosar

    Ilosar Vault Fossil

    Apr 20, 2010
    I hate Big C as much as the next guy, but failed empire? wat? Rome is probably the most influencial civilization in the Western world, and one of the longest lasting as well. Modern laws, politics, and military are very heavily influenced by Roman ideas, and the map of Europe to this day is highly influenced by how Romans divided their empire, and/or how their lands were divided it as fell. If you count the Eastern Empire, Rome has stood for nearly two thousand years as a civilization. Even if you only count Western Rome, it still lasted a millenia, much more that can be said for the vast majority of hegemonies.

    Anyway, back to the OP; I think some weapons are fun to use, such as the .44, Thompson and Gauss Rifle, but yeah there's not quite enough variety. And modding is fairly anecdotical in the end, serving mostly as a scaling mechanism (oooh, my Advanced receiver does more damage than this Powerful receiver!) and a way to change rifles into pistols or automatics.

    Plus, some of the weapons are just butt ugly. What is this power fist? Why are pipe weapons even a thing? Whose bright idea was it to lug around a Maxim machine gun and call it an ''assault rifle''?
     
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  19. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Yer fond of me Lobster!

    Oct 26, 2016
    When you have a brain-drain in your writing department, developing and fully-realizing new IP's may as well be impossible.

    They don't have the heavy-weight writing staff anymore that developed the TES franchise for them. Not in it's original capacity at least - no more Nelson and MK.
     
  20. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    That could work. Make it an unidentifiable new mutant type (among other new mutants).

    No idea why Beth keeps resorting to Super Mutants when they could try making new creatures and mutants (that may or may not be linked to FEV).

    EDIT:
    As I've noted numerous tmes, Greed likes to make up falsehoods and lies to suit its agenda which tends to be Bethesda shilling (of the irrational kind since said shilling often involves nitpicking and putting down other games to make its own 'beloved' games look good, rather than letting said 'beloved' games stand on their own merits).

    Worse still is that it does not admit that it's wrong when said falsehoods and lies are called out and disproved with actual cite-able facts (choosing instead to lie about it).

    For instance, Greed once claimed that MrBtongue's video on Shandification of Fallout received mainstream attention (appeared on major gaming sites somehow) that caused it to be called out on its mistakes but the view count, like-dislike ratio and lack of comments on calling out indicates otherwise (if anything, hbomberguy's video on Fallout 3 would be an indicator of getting mainstream attention). I called it a liar for that but it choose to buckle down on its claim. It only stopped making up these claims once I pressed it for links of sites that noted MrBtongue's mistakes. (http://www.nma-fallout.com/threads/worst-mechanics-in-gaming.208130/page-3#post-4201471)
     
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