Bethesda registers Fallout trademark for a TV series

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  1. Dukeanumberone

    Dukeanumberone It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jul 11, 2012
    That line made the Street Fighter movie for me, I like to take away things like that, that I would have never enjoyed without the movie, and leave what I don't. Much like buffet religion.

    And the simple fact that it all started with a VG IP is pretty awesome.
    There is an interview on one of the mortal kombat games as unlocked material, that interviews one of the original creators and they ask him if he is disappointed at how the movies turned out, to which he replied.

    --paraphrasing here, not directly quoting.
    We just made a stupid game, that a bunch people liked so much they turned it into a movie, thats freaking awesome.

    My sentiments exactly, don't expect and enjoy it for what it is.
    Besides with the we treat IP's these days someone will just reboot it in a few years anyway.
     
  2. Faceless Stranger

    Faceless Stranger Board Drifter

    Aug 19, 2010
    "From the esteemed creators of DmC, introducing Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel" :lol:
     
  3. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Maybe you would realize that we are not talking here about taste but if you want probability. And it is VERY likely that movies or TV projects based on games will be pretty bad or at best mediocre.

    Just compare that to movies based on books and there are COUNTLESS examples of very good, even excellent adaptions on the screen. Be it one of the popular movies like the Lord of the Ring, Band of Brothers, Game of Thrones, Perfume, The Borne Identity, James Bond etc.

    Maybe not all of them have the same quality, but in general even the "mediocre" book adaptions usually beat the "good" game adaptions.

    So, what ever if YOU like that idea or not, but it is NOT that far-fetched to believe that a project like Fallout as movie or TV show will have to fight many odds. Movie adabtions have to deal with many inherently challenges. Adaptions based on games even more, simply because there is a lot more focus on making "money" then "quality".

    The same for example can be many times seen on games based on movies because they are usually rushed, have a different pacing and so on. I have no clue why, but particularly movies and games seem to have a ... special relation ship and when ever both meet each other the quality seems to suffer. But thats my opinion on that part.

    Well, that for sure.

    But there ARE things where most people can agree with.

    Like that most if not even all Boll movies are utter garbage. Seriously, I question anyones health if he "seriously" likes them - sure some are SO bad they are ALMOST good again, but when my friend and I watched Bloodrayne we have been laughing hard sometimes, but we never had this feeling that it was quality entertainment in any kind of form. It was simply unbelievable how anyone could make such bad movies on purpose.

    But its pretty clear that Boll was actually only making movies to get the tax returns from the German government or something like that. There was a lot of corruption together with stock holders. And now since they changed the law here Boll somehow stoped to make movies. Coincidence? I am not so sure.
     
  4. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Carbon Dated and Proud
    Modder

    Sep 14, 2009
    I hope Bethesda do make a TV show, it couldn't be any worse than the shit that's screened each night on my TV. At best, it could be interesting, at worse, a laugh. :P
     
  5. Public

    Public Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    May 18, 2006
    Saw that coming right after seeing the live action intro to Fallout 3.

    Thought to myself "Those sons of the bitc*es".

    I would like to see that sh*t anyway ^^
     
  6. Dukeanumberone

    Dukeanumberone It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jul 11, 2012
    In this particular case probability and taste are not mutually exclusive items as one directly affects the perception of the other.


    That is more of a measure on "how faithfull / close to canon" the particular media is. Which may or may not affect how people like the given media.

    Your opinion not mine, and a subjective viewpoint.

    Much like the challenges of making "ANY" show or movie. The difference here is that many people will subject their view of the media to a scale of how close to the original source material the media stays. I will still wait and see for myself.
     
  7. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    seriously now, you cant tell me that Boll movies have been great cinema, same for many of the other movies based on games. Max Payne? Street Figther? Mortal Kombat 2? Just to name a few. "good" movies? Seriuosly now?

    Next you want to tell me Fallout 3 was a good Role Playing Game ...
     
  8. Dukeanumberone

    Dukeanumberone It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jul 11, 2012
    I guess that is the name of the director, cant say i've seen any of his movies.

    per Max Payne? Street Figther? Mortal Kombat 2
    Like I said I take them for what they are, and I don't impose my own litmus in order to enjoy them. Stop calling something "good" and use actual definable terms and then the conversation will change, until then we are stuck in a loop.

    Losing argument of subjectiveness... quick change the topic!!!
     
  9. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    well if you INDEED think those movies are good, then well I dont know what else we can talk about.

    Anyway, I have no clue what those movies are so I dont know as what to take them. However I believe its all a form of entertainment, and they fail at that. I hear people talk about Terminator, I hear people talk about Titanic. Because they are good movies. I dont hear people talk about Mortal Combat 2 or the Mario movie. Except in one situation, when we start to talk about trash-movies and laugh hard about the fact how bad they are.

    Now, see this can be even a good thing, take Sam Raimi and the Evil Dead movies where he decided to do the third movie army of darkness as a "comedy" on purpose.

    It was sarcasm.
     
  10. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Level 27 Wizard Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    Don't worry Crni. They suck. You know it, I know it, the vast majority of movie goers knew it. Lot's of people like shit movies. Usually they admit they are shit though. They don't keep spouting out, "Well, that's just, like your opinion man."

    I know of plenty of people that like those types of movies, when I ask them why, they say they like watching crap movies. At least they are honest.

    Thing is, I kinda liked Street Fighter too, but it's an awful fucking movie. Same with Mario. Same with Max Payne ( God how can you even call that movie good though?). You can sit here and say in my opinion these movies are good, but the fact remains, mainly teenagers are the ones who liked them. Kids have poor taste in movies often times, so I wouldn't ask a 12 year old, "Hey, what's your favorite movie. I want to go watch it", because usually it will be something meaningless, filled with special effects, no plot, and a few cutesy catchphrases. I used to think Predator 2 was one of the best sci-fi movies around. Holy fucking shit was I wrong. I watched it recently and it killed me how bad it was. I actually liked this shit? Sure you can take something away from any movie. Doesn't mean it's worth a shit.

    What can you call bad movies with no substance if not bad? Duke liked Street Fighter, Max Payne, and Mortal Kombat 2. I can hardly put those words together in a sentence without laughing. It makes me doubt his taste in movies. I'll put it this way, if Duke says a movie is good, I won't trust his judgement. Not only are those three movies fucking awful, they are a fucking spit in the face to the fans of the games.

    Max Payne? Marky fucking Mark as MAX PAYNE? HAAHAHAAH! Right off the bat, horrible casting choice. Not exactly a Clint Eastwood type. Then they raped the entire storyline, tossed in some demon bullshit, and put together some of the worst action scenes imaginable. One part I liked, was when he pumped up with the drug and got all pissed off. Wow. Great movie for one scene I liked. Doesn't make me think the movie is less awful or great. Pisses me off since the shit COULD have been an amazing movie.

    Street Fighter. Horrible fight scenes in a movie based on a fighting game. Decent catch phrases, I'll give it that. Only thing it had going for it really. That ups the move from awful to bad. Still, the movie was a huge letdown. I won't get into it very much because most people know what I'm talking about. Here is a brief review that sums up how I feel:

    Though it offers mild entertainment through campy one-liners and the overacting of the late Raul Julia, Street Fighter's nonstop action sequences are not enough to make up for a predictable, uneven storyline.

    Besides the fact that the action sequences aren't very well done. Should have gotten Jackie Chan to do some of the shit or something.

    Super Mario Bros. Just the production history on that is a laugh. A husband and wife team that went way overbudget with nothing to show for it. The kids were confused as shit when that movie came out. This is MARIO!? The theme was okay, but not for Mario Bros! What were they thinking? An apocalyptic style Mushroom Kingdom with goombas that were dinosaurs with nothing resembling Mario bros. aside from two plumbers, yoshi, a bob-omb, and fungus. You're telling me, it's all subjective man.

    What did the actors say?

    Bob Hoskins has spoken critically of Super Mario Bros., saying that it was "the worst thing I ever did" and that "the whole experience was a nightmare" In another interview with The Guardian, Hoskins answered Super Mario Bros. to three of the questions he was asked, "What is the worst job you've done," "What has been your biggest disappointment," and "If you could edit your past, what would you change?"

    Dennis Hopper was also disparaging of the production, "It was a nightmare, very honestly, that movie. It was a husband-and-wife directing team who were both control freaks and wouldn't talk before they made decisions. Anyway, I was supposed to go down there for five weeks, and I was there for 17. It was so over budget."

    No one involved liked the movie they made. But, it's like, what you take away from it man.

    I often say I try to take away anything from the movies I watch too, but you have to admit that they suck when they do. Now Duke I get your spiel. Semantics BS the lot of it. Simply debating on the wording of the matter.

    Now none of this REALLY has anything to do with Fallout or a movie based on it, other than the rule of video game movies/series(name one btw. Series wise), which states:

    All video game movies stand the chance of diverting from their roots, alienating their fan base, and bombing at the box office.


    Now I realize Duke, you aren't REALLY saying they are good and you are being pretty civil about it. Kudos to you. If any of this comes across as abrasive or douchbag like, I can deal with that. It just pains me to see someone defending movies that should have been better. :irked:
     
  11. Dukeanumberone

    Dukeanumberone It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jul 11, 2012
    TorontRayne

    Oh thank god, I was hoping someone would get it before I continued on forever.

    You are right I never said I thought any of them were "good" movies, but that doesn't mean I wasn't entertained. Like I said I don't have a litmus for movies, if I enjoy it I enjoy it. The only thing I have learned about watching movies is that if you eliminate any expectations, you won't be disappointed(or as disappointed, depending on your POV) it will just be your perception of whether or not you thought the movie was "good". Which is why I avoid movie trailers like the plague.

    Per the chance thing, its pretty obvious there is the chance it will be bad, I never said there wasn't.
    Per probability, If I say it is probable then I am already biasing my opinion.
     
  12. Ilosar

    Ilosar Vault Fossil

    Apr 20, 2010
    Which is exactly my sentiment over Fallout 3. Entertaining, but I can't say it's a really good game, let alone a good Fallout game (as they were envisioned in 1&2). Unfortunately, this isin't the Street Fighter series which always had cheesy stories that nobody really cared about anyway, it was all for the gameplay. However, story is at the core of Fallout. If your Fallout game is a cheesy guilty pleasure, it fails at what it set out to do.

    Also, you simply cannot eliminate any expectation. Based on the name of the movie alone you create an expectation. And I refuse to lower my expectations in order to gobble up any shit that gets thrown my way, sorry, won't happen.
     
  13. Ddrenai

    Ddrenai First time out of the vault

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    Apr 28, 2011
    Honestly if they think that this commercial move is going to bring them money, then good for them. In the modern world quality isn't required, but the pure skill to get a lot of money in a short time it is: they simply apply this philosophy because they know to have lots of fans who are going to buy anything related with "Vaults/Fallout/Post nuclear things-Bethseda Trademark"...as i said good for them.