Comics and graphic novels

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Malky, Apr 23, 2006.

  1. UnidentifiedFlyingTard

    UnidentifiedFlyingTard Vault Fossil

    Mar 12, 2009
    Currently re-reading Watchmen, I plan on a buying the Johnny The Homicidal Maniac Trade Paperback when I get some money.
  2. Mutoes

    Mutoes Mildly Dipped

    Feb 5, 2008
    Im currently re reading trough all Tintins by herge, good stuff.

    Other comics ive enjoyed are:

    Metabarons.Gimenez/Jodorowsky -Scifi/fantasy
    Bokko(in french aka stratege).Sakemi/mori -Strategy/historical
    Lone wolf and cub.Kojima/koike -Samurai
    Blame. Tsutomu nihei -Scifi/cyberpunk
    Abara. Tsutomu nihei -Scifi
    Donald/scrooge comics.Carl Barks -I dunno.Disney?
    Batman black & white -Superhero
    Calvin and hobbes

    There are others but i wont bore you further with long list.
  3. Loxley

    Loxley Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Apr 11, 2003
    If you liked those I will recommend the donald/scrooge comics made by Don Rosa.
  4. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    May 27, 2004
    negative. probably those weren't mainstream enough for me to notice.

    and yes, we got a lot of french comics up here. i quite like their style, so i don't mind.
  5. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    Why the fuck Convent of Hell has to be so awesome?
  6. Takashi

    Takashi Chimichangas!

    Dec 20, 2003
    Seeing as there is already a comics thread here I'll go ahead and add this here. Yesterday I was in Books-A-Million and read the newest issue of the Deadpool comics, and during the comic he made a slight reference to Fallout 3, mentioning Radroaches and Molerats. Deadpool ftw
  7. Radwaster

    Radwaster It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Apr 1, 2009
    Just been reading the new(ish) League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
    Another good 'un from Moore & O'Niell:

  8. welsh

    welsh Junkmaster

    Apr 5, 2003
    Being a zombie fan, i was reading the Walking Dead.

    But... is that a graphic novel or a comic book? What is the difference?
  9. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    A graphic novel is when you are being an artsy fartsy snob that can't be reading just comic books.
  10. Wooz

    Wooz Vault Sweeper Admin Orderite

    May 18, 2003
    No, ya furry 'tard.

    A graphic novel has a narrative, a beginning and an end, usually in the same book, as opposed to ongoing comics series.

    By the way, bought the V for Vendetta re-issue in English the other day. With extra episodes and cover art and all. It seems my kind requests for more quality stuff and scorning laughs about the bulk of manga crap sold to weeaboo teenagers are starting to work.

    Oh, and got Black Hole about a month ago.
  11. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    So Disney's The Story of Scrooge series is a graphic novel?
  12. Alphadrop

    Alphadrop A right proper chap.

    Aug 21, 2008
    So V for Vendetta is a comic series but not a graphic novel or is it a graphic novel that came out in a comic? I have some of the comics it appeared in.
  13. Wooz

    Wooz Vault Sweeper Admin Orderite

    May 18, 2003
    Graphic novel that came out in a comic. Warrior magazine, IIRC. So's Moebius' Incal and Bilal's Nikopol trilogy.

    Your face is a graphic novel. :D
  14. Flop

    Flop Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Aug 10, 2004
    Pretty much everything from Disney is a graphic novel, by that standard, I guess.
  15. Loxley

    Loxley Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Apr 11, 2003
    Trying to define what a graphic novel is? Try to find a good definition of a novel while you are at it will you?
  16. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    Wooz is right.

    Some graphic novels get serialised before they get published as a whole, though. In fact, pre-2000, pretty much every graphic novel got serialised before going into print as a complete book. That trend has died since the growing popularity of the medium throughout the world, there are just too much of the bloody things being made to publish all of them as comics as well and still make a profit. A shame really 'cause I prefer the comics format to the book format.

    Compare stuff like X-Men, Spider-Man, The Fantastic Four, ... (i.e. comics) to soap series: sure there's a story, but it goes on forever, new plots are added, new characters constantly introduced.
    Compare graphic novels to movies: they are well-defined projects with a beginning and an end that fit between the cover. Of course you could have a series of graphic novels (just like you could have a series of films like the LotR trilogy), but you get my point, I'm sure.

    Last ones I have "read" were Sticks and Stones by Peter Kuper and He Done Her Wrong by Milt Gross. Both are wordless grahic novels. The last one was drawn in 1930 and is like a Chaplin movie on paper, a true gem worthy of yearly reprints. Check it out if Chaplin, graphic novels and slapstick are your kind of thing.
  17. Patton89

    Patton89 Vault Dweller

    Nov 21, 2008
    One thing i dislike about american comics is the endless use of same superheroes. Oh and that they HAVE to be about superheroes. I might be exaggerating a bit, but it does seem most american comics are centered around superheroes.
    Also, how the hell am i supposed to keep up with so many insane spin-offs and mini-series ? Its just insane.

    I am currently reading the lone wolf and cub, rather enjoyable thing.
  18. TwinkieGorilla

    TwinkieGorilla This ghoul has seen it all

    Oct 19, 2007
    pretty dumb post, dude.

    Jim Woodring, Chris Ware, Charles Burns, Art Spiegelman, Robert Crumb, Chester Brown, Brian K. Vaughn, Daniel Clowes, Peter Bagge, Mike Mignola, Jhonen Vasquez, Gilbert and Jaime Hernandez, Adrian Tomine, Tony Millionaire, Joe Sacco, Lynda Barry, Brian Azzarello...i mean...what the fuck? i could go on all day.
  19. welsh

    welsh Junkmaster

    Apr 5, 2003
    So Walking Dead is still a comic book because it has no defined end? Its graphic because it uses pictures instead of descriptive narrative? However, its a comic book despite not having a super hero character nor having comedy? My guess is that Walking Dead is not written for children - should that matter?

    Update- I did notice that graphic novels are more expensive than comic books.
  20. Carib FMJ

    Carib FMJ Nuka-Cola Chaser

    Nov 8, 2003
    Lets see...

    I been reading

    Crossed by Garth Ennis... Pretty disturbing and dark...

    Hack/Slash Omnibus 1 - Pretty entertaining

    Deadpool - Always funny

    The Life and Times of Martha Washington in the 21st Century - by Frank Miller.... Pretty good for a dystopian post apoc story.