Discussion in 'Fallout: New Vegas Discussion' started by Eternal, Dec 9, 2010.

  1. AWildmann

    AWildmann It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Sep 12, 2010
    If I recall there was Dwarven Lore on Morrowind, there were a lot of relics and shrines you could find about them, but never actually any Dwarf. I always wish I would trip into one of them while playing but it never seem to happened.

    Maybe Bethesda kinda hates them, who knows.
  2. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Well, the absence of the dwarves (who were not really dwarvish, but just another goddamn elven race :D) was a big part of the lore of Morrowind.
    There is actually one living dwarf that you meet during the main quest. The rest are all spectres.
    For Fallout 3 and NV, I just think they were too lazy to build a completely new body and animations.
  3. AWildmann

    AWildmann It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Sep 12, 2010
    You don't mean that fat one on spider legs? Hell, I barely remembered him :(
    Wish there were dwarves in those games, they rock!
  4. Iseeyourehandywithablade

    Iseeyourehandywithablade First time out of the vault

    Dec 15, 2010

  5. Verevoof

    Verevoof Cryptid oTO Moderator Orderite

    Jul 12, 2009
    Actually, there is a difference between dwarfs and midgets (besides the term midget being considered derogatory, while dwarf is not so much). Dwarfs have disproportionate bodies, while midgets are proportional. Most little people today are dwarfs. Individuals born midgets are usually given growth hormones.
  6. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    Since a lot of time has passed between FO1 and FNV, naturally, health conditions of individuals have changed in most parts of the world, due to a lack of raditation and post-post-apocalyptic societes growing around like mushrooms after rain, it is natural that medical capabilites have at least been expanded (no matter that Stimpaks and other meds cannot be that easily found and scavenged anymore).
    However, that wouldn't affect the apperance of dwarfism as a whole much.
    Even in the very "healthy" world of today, there are many little people living, so the fact that this is post-apocalyptic setting doesn't change it much.
    Little people should have been included in FO3 and FNV, and should be in future installments. Infact, it should be allowed for a player to make a little man as his character, but in that case, so should it be implemented for creating a ghoul, maybe a super mutant etc.

    The whole point is, little people aren't there because developers are lazy, or the engine is incapable, and the combination of both is most likely a reason...
  7. overtake

    overtake First time out of the vault

    Apr 7, 2010
    I find the lack of alternative body models disturbing. I mean, trackers in the Point Lookout are the only more "beefy" characters.

    I miss Gizmo and Vic.

    I guess Post-apocalyptic Weight watchers have done something right.
  8. AWildmann

    AWildmann It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Sep 12, 2010
    Lack of non-irradiated food maybe.
  9. Adept

    Adept First time out of the vault

    Jan 28, 2011
    I think the dwarfs would fit well into the atmosphere in New Vegas but qualitatively do them will be difficult. Of course, you can simply reduce and retexture standard models, but it will be shit. The only option - to do all the new models .. but then again, it's hard.
  10. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Now that you mention it ... Since Bethesdas Fallout diversty in proportions kind has been flushed down the toilet. No fat, small, ugly (particlularly no beautiful) people in the wastes anymore.