zenitfan4life said:
Interesting, where are these records kept, I never saw them, how can I miss something like this o_O
Then you're missing on some really cool stuff there: in the military base, on the main vats control computer (where you set the self-destruct), you can access the "audio" log of Richard Grey (i don't know if there's a science skill check for the options to show, for i always get them), it picks up where Harold left the story, of course, and it shows basically the step by step transformation of Richard Grey, both physically and mentally, from his crawling out of the vat in which he was thrown, up until becoming the Master.
zenitfan4life said:
Well, Harold mentions that there were a lot of attacks on caravans, which makes sense because they needed humans to turn into supermutants. But then again there was no Master to organize this yet, so maybe this is just coincidence...
Check the logs on the vats computer and you'll see, that's why i said that the mutants attacking Harold's old caravans probably refers to mutated beasts.
zenitfan4life said:
Still, Zax Mainframe in the Glow has files that say there were human testing of FEV virus at Mariposa base, so if the Vats made Grey mutate, they sure as hell might have had some mutations before that too. These mutations is most likely what causes Mariposa to get out of control. We know for a fact that no atomic bombs fell on it, otherwise it would look like the Glow... The base was safely hidden in the mountains, and we can only assume that FEV testing got out of control and mutants took over the military base. Whether they were supermutants or not is unclear. Perhaps they wern't supermutants, but they sure had to be some sort of mutants imo.
If i remember correctly, the records in the Zax Mainframe doesn't really say for certain that there were human testing of FEV at Mariposa military base; it says something along the lines of: "research moved to Mariposa where testing of FEV
will take place on voluntary human subjects from the military".
What's more important though, is that you can
also find in the military base on the same place as the aforementioned "audio" log of Richard Grey, Captain Maxson's log, which shows what happened in the military base and the "birth" of the Brotherhood of Steel. There were no mutants, no FEV testing gone out of control, Maxson's log implies that the "voluntary" experiments were not so voluntary after all, and were kept a secret from the rest of the soldiers stationed there... to make matters short, in the end all hell breaks loose, and the highest ranking military officer still alive (that is, Captain Maxson), orders all military personal and their families to abandon Mariposa base and move on to the lost hills bunker, which later becomes the Brotherhood of Steel.
Also, the Master, is truly an unique freak of nature, cause nowhere else is even hinted that another human mutated as he did.