Fallout 76

Discussion in 'Fallout 76' started by Hassknecht, May 30, 2018.

  1. Risewild

    Risewild Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    I heard the Windows UWP prevents modding in (some?) games, like Final Fantasy XV, while the Steam version of the game allows modding.
    I have no idea if this is true or not, since I never get games from Microsoft Store.
     
  2. Einhanderc7

    Einhanderc7 Vat dipped, grown and still oozing with perfection

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    Apr 22, 2016
    I don't know why I'm surprised customers have been buying into the pre-purchase of Fallout 76. Really shows how critically minded the consumer is when they are purchasing an unfinished product...

    Also on the Steam Discussion boards someone asked why all the hate for Fallout 76, the answer the questioner flagged as the answer was "ur gay". Is it just me or is Fallout no longer marketed to adults, but to small children? I think the only time we encounter such a thing is when a troll wanders by. Yet NMA is considered the toxic element? :wiggle:

    Also I sent an e-mail to Bethesda recently (their press division) requesting that they make a clear statement of what Fallout is for their consumers in relation to the brand. Based upon their own releases of the brand itself which seems to be in complete disarray since only 1 Bethesda title (Fallout 3) can be considered a role playing game even if it's narrative is borked. Unsurprisingly they have not responded, or indicated any effort to elaborate what they consider the Fallout brand.
     
  3. Charwo

    Charwo Still Mildly Glowing

    244
    Mar 9, 2017
    And now it's conmfirmed there's no dialouge. I already wasn't interested but FUCK THIS GAME!
     
  4. Ediros

    Ediros Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    855
    Feb 4, 2016
    I mean, it's a rust clone, what did You expect? Fallout Has always been a secondary franchise to bugthesda. They use it as a testing ground for their 'new' mechanics like voiced protagonist, so Elder Scrolls doesnt suck as much.

    At least New California and Frontier are coming up for New Vegas.

    Worst thing is, fanboys, idiots and casuals will buy it, because it Has got Fallout name in it.

    Also, this game sucks but bugthesda is shit tier company that deserves no money. Search for a thread by me, lots of shady stuff, if You are curious.
     
  5. Squadcar

    Squadcar Still closed. Still closed.

    Jun 1, 2018
    FTFY lol

    This is a good thing to think, this is how the spirit of Fallout should live on.

    I think it kinda was heavily implied and just assumed anyway. Just ignore games you don't like. I get that Bethesda is making the Fallouts we don't ask for but at this point you just gotta treat it like all AAA games by not bothering by the ones you find bullshit.

    I've said it a good bit here, and I know it may lessen some people's opinion on me and how I view Fallout but while I hate the idea of how Bethesda handles the series, I think Fallout 76 looks like a fun online game. I'll be buying the game for that reason. Not because it's Fallout but because the game on it's own looks like it'll be fun for my friends and I to run around in and see and do zany things. If it isn't that, I'll be disappointed. I'm over being concerned with how Bethesda is moving Fallout forward. If they make a fun AAA game that stands that way on its own, cool. If they don't, meh.
    It's highly likely there will not be a release of a Fallout game that should be made in the spirit of Fallout correctly as long as they own the IP (the best move they did for Fallout was let the people who were at Obsidian in 2009/2010 work on a title, which in my opinion was the only modern Fallout that matters as a Fallout title). I'll start looking at new releases of Fallout as if they were new takes on the series again when and if someone else can acquire that IP (somehow). Right now, it's just a brand name.
     
  6. Canaris

    Canaris First time out of the vault

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    Mar 29, 2009
    Im still amazed that anyone is actually hyped for forced pvp multiplayer Bugfesta game with no mods...
    Its like those people are braindead or something..
     
  7. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    I would not say braindead. I would rather say that they want a Fallout fix and are still under the impression that Bethesda can do no wrong.
    Especially because this is an audience whose tastes differ in general so much from the Fallout fans of the original Fallouts that if you would put the interests of both groups together in a venn diagram that there is but a very small overlap.

    Fallout 76 may be the title that will even make some of these fans reconsider their opinion on Bethesda though I still think they probably want a Fallout 5 that is like Fallout 3 and 4.
    So even if this fandom is disappointed by this game and becomes verbal about it I still would not side with them.
     
  8. Ediros

    Ediros Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    Feb 4, 2016
    NUKES ARE FUN, RIGHT GUYS?!

     
  9. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    They sure are. Why doesn't the military use them more often?

    Heh I could actually half buy the idea now that some people suggest that Bethesda is promoting the use of nukes in video games so that when governments start sanctioning their use in real life people are desensitized to the news.
     
  10. Unorthodox Outlander

    Unorthodox Outlander It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Aug 28, 2017
    ...Bit of an idle thought, but do you think that they'd make it possible to take the codes off of other players' corpses? I'm almost imagining a few people trying to grab all the codes and hide them away to keep the 'tards from nuking everything.
     
  11. Big No

    Big No Watch as I open and close this door

    621
    Oct 28, 2014
    Maybe, but I feel it'd be too easy to just kill someone and take the code off their body. If the devs are really going to boast how teamwork is needed to launch a nuke if someone else gets a code piece, it would be stupid as hell too make it so you could just kill the individual for it.
     
  12. Squadcar

    Squadcar Still closed. Still closed.

    Jun 1, 2018
    I don't think nuking areas is going to be that big of a deal that players will try to stop others from doing it.
    Reasons being:
    1. Your base is mobile and doesn't seem to just ever disappear in the blink of an eye. If a nuke hit wherever you placed it, it'll probably just get "packed up" and put into your inventory
    2. Nuking an area is supposed to generate a alternative area for a time period before it returns to normal. Nukes are part of the end game and when you hit an area with one, it has tougher enemies and rare loot.

    Nuking players seems like it will be more work than it's worth to just nuke a group of players. It'll probably be easier to hunt them down and kill them than go through the steps for an end game loot quest to just waste the reward on dropping a bomb on someone.
     
  13. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    Not only that but you'd be giving them a free pass to exploit the event before you get there, which even if you're not doing it in a competitive spirit (why would you intentionally aim at people then though), you won't really be able to reap the benefits.

    Also, I find a bit funny people being so mad at nukes being a gameplay device in Fallout, like THAT is the one thing to point at. Makes me wonder if they haven't played Lonesome Road, where you can pop up to like 50 warheads, if that was the number. :lalala:
     
  14. tgawt

    tgawt ye ass

    86
    Jul 9, 2018
    fallout 76 is the dumbest shit ever and as someone who has played fallout games far past forever i fucking hate it with a passion but thats not gonna stop me from playing it and putting 200+ hours into it
     
  15. Norzan

    Norzan Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 7, 2017
    In Lonesome Road you destroy them to remove them because they are a dangerous hazard. In Fallout 76 you throw nukes for loot, even though they claim it's all about rebuilding civilization.

    Throwing nukes to rebuild civilization, that's why many people criticize this. Also the glorification of nukes, even though in previous games they were used as a criticism of nuclear war.
     
  16. Orius

    Orius First time out of the vault

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    Jul 23, 2018
    I just saw the Fallout 76 trailer. I know I'm three months late, but whatever. I'm honestly glad I stopped caring much about the game enough that I didn't know about the trailer's release in the first place, because phewie, this trailer just makes me not want to play Bethesda Fallout games anymore much more than I did before.

    Just for reference, the specific trailer I'm referring to is this:


    The major problem I have with that trailer is that it's seemingly much more focused on "building a community." Where's the story? Where's the RPG elements like choice and consequence? Granted, New Vegas' trailer hardly had that either, but this... heavy-handed advertising of "building a community" just seems so anti-Fallout, at least anti-the kind of Fallout I remember. It doesn't feel like Fallout at all. Feels like some glorified social sim. In fact, it feels a lot like Fallout 4, the part where you build settlements like it's The Sims. That was undoubtedly the worst gameplay Bethesda has brought to the franchise, and it's a disgrace to the first two Fallout games.

    I think I'll give this a pass, unless future reviews put my doubts to ease. I've seen RPGs die before as they become commercialized (SWTOR comes to mind), and this seems like a textbook example. This game just looks so soulless and generic. Where's the edge and danger anymore? I mean, are we still playing Fallout or is this one of those Fortnite bullshit?

    Anyway, I won't hold my breath for a decent Fallout 5 game. Good job, Bethesda. You're fucking up RPGs as always.
     
  17. Lone Cat

    Lone Cat It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Apr 8, 2012
    ^ Who did this announcement?
    And did you notice that Vault Tec Announcer looks ALOT like Ron Perlman ??
     
  18. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    What do you mean "story" and "choice and consequence"? It's a multiplayer game, and they already said there's basically none of that.
     
  19. Alphons

    Alphons National Beholder

    672
    Aug 9, 2017
    Beta on Xbox starts on 23rd October, while beta on PC and PS starts a week later, on 30th.

    Anyway, when will official NMA server launch?
     
  20. Hulk'O'Saurus

    Hulk'O'Saurus Still Mildly Glowing

    226
    Jul 10, 2018
    Wait, what... people still talking about F76...

    Meh... maybe it's just me.

    I'm close to completing a very nice build in Deadfire, if somebody wants to give it a try, just pm me :).