Games series ruined by new owners.

Like I said, I blame hype culture for this along with the current generation of gamers. It's why I've given up on caring about the medium even though I still hope for it to advance more.

 

I'm still very confused on how the new Doom is bad.
I thought Doom 3 was hot garbage personally, and I'm not sure where everyone is basing most of their opinions on because it seems like a lot of people had wildly different experiences of the Original Doom and Doom 4 than I had.

I'm also unsure how the armor or debating the art style is going to yield any productive results or have any real merit. To me it seems more like a slight cosmetic change to a motif that has always been there.

Game play wise all the core mechanics that made Doom great are there, and they even threw in some new interesting features to prevent it from turning into a grind fest.

Story wise, if you read all the material it easily out competes Doom 3. And if anyone is going to nit pick the story remember the original Doom had little to none, and was constantly clouded in confusion on purpose because the game really didn't want players to focus on it.

From what I understand from the developers when they spoke about the first Doom, it was all about making the player feel powerful and bad ass. Doom 4 achieved this.

While I enjoyed it a great deal, I find it unfortunate I cannot include as well share in my enjoyment with you nice folks too.

 

Thief 2014 needs some explaining:

The original Thief games are about Garrett by Stephen Russell who is, as the name implies, a thief. He robs from the rich because they have money and gives to the poor (himself). He's an anti-hero who relies on stealth and while he gets caught up in bigger events, it's always because things are going to shit. There's the Church of the Hammer (Steampunk Templars) and the crazy murderous Pagans. Garrett has no politics and is enjoyable in a kind of fantasy noir sort of way. Garrett doesn't have any real ability to fight even though he has a sword and all of the levels are about looting the houses of the very rich of incredinly rare valuables.

What did Eidos do with Thief?

Thief is about Garrett no longer being voiced by Stephen Russell in a game about the politics between the Low-Tech Religious Mases and the Upper Class Technologists (effectively fucking up the lore for no reason whatsoever). They stick Garrett in the middle of a Clocktower like fucking Batman and have him wander around the city stealing spoons and silverware versus actual fucking items like gold or jewelry. There's also a plague afflicting the village which is straight from Dishonored and the resutl of the EVIL upper classes except we never find that out until the end.

Its an open world sandbox too where you spend most of your time robbing the poor and being chased by guards who have no reason to actually chase you.

Ugh.

 

I'm not saying it isn't ridiculous, but there are official novels set in the Doom Universe, Doom RPGs for mobile phones (for pre-iPhone and iPhone - sorry no Android), and a fan-made Doom text adventure game.

 

Doom 3's story was perhaps not the best but I still enjoyed it. Resurrection of Evil was a little less strong.
Still I would have liked to have seen a follow up to this game. I hope Phobos, a Doom 3 Single Player campaign mod will be released.

I know the new Doom is more to the roots of the series but I am really not that interested in playing it. I much rather play Brutal Doom's Single Player campaign.

Edit: from what I remember about the novels based on Doom 1 and Doom 2 the demons are revealed to have been created by aliens and designed to resemble shapes humans would fear.
Don't recall the rest.

The Doom 3 books I think were sort of adaptations of the campaign of Doom 3.

In general books based on games tend to be quite bad.

 

I see now that you have some aggression that needs mitigation. While I do value you opinion I do not appreciate being called stupid nor retarded.

While I must admit my posts on the subject have been rather inflammatory they did not make judgement's based on you without reasonable merit.

Debating this topic further will yield no useful results as your mind is closed to the point that any reasonable discussion is pointless. You have become the polar opposite of a die hard fan, and that too is just as tedious as the fan zealot.

 

Prey
Red Alert
Fallout(although the ruin didn't necesarly start with Bethesda. It just continued on with them.)

 

I entirely disagree here. I have been playing Doom since it's inception and I have never once considered them serious games. A big part of Doom 3's failure is it tried to be serious. The folks at Id bumped their heads and thought they were making System Shock.

 

Why do you think Doom 3 is garbage?

 

They were serious games for that period of time. Of course, when you look back at them now, with their graphics, it's hard to take them seriously.

 

Am I late to mention Fallout?

Valkyria Chronicles also got turned into a shitty Warriors game for no reason (exclusive to the PS4 too), even tho the only reason why they even got enough interest into the brand for a sequel to be made to cash in on it was from the PC community showing interest in it's interesting combination of Turn based strategy with real time shooting. One wonders some times why people with money seem to be so stupid.

 

I thought Doom 3 was excellent but not as good as the previous Doom games. I've never played Doom 4 but the gameplay doesn't look very appealing to me.

In the 90s, PC gamers were different than PC gamers today. Back in those days, morons couldn't be PC gamers because it was too hard for them to use MS DOS etc to install a PC game, set it up correctly and play it... It wasn't as simple as click, click, click and play. Back then, PC gaming wasn't for the masses but for the intelligent, educated and patient individuals with a passion for gaming. Today, any moron can just go out, buy a PC, download and run Steam and start playing PC games. Microsoft and Valve opened the gateway to moron hell with Windows and Steam and all the morons came pouring through the gateway, happy to throw massive amounts of money at games like The Sims and Call Of Duty etc. Gamers like us are becoming extinct.

 

Don't double post.

Also don't backseat moderate.

 

Why are you telling me what to do?

 

I'm not looking back on them as silly, I've always thought they were silly even at the time of their release. The midi metal soundtrack, The imagery, the gameplay, all of that screamed tongue and cheek to me. If we were talking about the original Alone in the Dark, I could see that, but Doom's a Slayer album in video game form. I could never take it seriously and I'm honestly shocked to find that people did especially considering Carmack's stance on video game narratives.