Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Blakut, Apr 11, 2010.

  1. SimpleMinded

    SimpleMinded Vault Fossil

    Jun 17, 2003

    I looked this up after your post and damn it looks beautiful.

    How overrun is it with tourists? Would it still be a great place to go?
  2. Clever Rat

    Clever Rat First time out of the vault

    Apr 13, 2010
    I expect pics of you with a big boobed German girl or I'm never visiting Germany. Ever!
  3. el_jefe_of_ny

    el_jefe_of_ny Still Mildly Glowing

    Jan 6, 2010
    South west German chicks are fly
  4. Blakut

    Blakut Vault Senior Citizen

    Jan 9, 2008
    I have a theory that in WW2 Nazis went back in time in order to make the German language extremely difficult, so that allies won't break their communication codes. That's why i can't learn it!
  5. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Its Gerrrrrrmany. Like in Grrrremlins. Is it that hard ?
  6. Surf Solar

    Surf Solar So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2009
    Yes, germany seems to be a very difficult language for foreigners. It's also not really a "beautiful" language, phonetical imo. (except the saxonian accent! :D )

    I'd also recommend visiting Dresden, it's a very beautiful town with old architecture, but also many good clubs/bars and good music playing.
    Leipzig (where I live) lacks in old intersting buildings, but the musical "scene" here is very good.
  7. Blakut

    Blakut Vault Senior Citizen

    Jan 9, 2008
    Wait a second, i thought that Dresden only had new buildings cause it was destroyed in WW2...?
  8. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Dresden is a quite big city. While it suffered a lot of damage it doesnt mean everything everwhere was hit.

    Also there are different ways how to design and build a once destroyed building. You could replace it with a simple concrete block (what they did many times in Soviet ruled nations ... but they did that as well in west germany, see Mannheim) or you keep an eye on the old structure.

    Mannheim is an ugly place. And yes I know it.

    Another pretty ugly cities are Viernheim and Ludwigshafen. Its like they look like boring urban industry villages or something.
  9. Surf Solar

    Surf Solar So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2009
    As Crni already said, most of the buildings were rebuild, a great "symbol" of rebuilding the town was the Frauenkirche, it was completely destroyed, but with a huge amount of money rebuild the last years.

  10. Roflcore

    Roflcore Mildly Dipped

    Nov 2, 2008
    So if you study in Wuppertal my guess is that you have the so called "NRW Ticket" and can use any train within NRW right?
    If you want to see some nightlife and/or culture I think Düsseldorf (I mean Dusseldorf ofc :D) is the center of the region right now.You could also check out Aachen, lots of interesting stuff going on there, vibrant student town with ancient buildings and that sort of thing. Oberhausen is also nearby with one of the biggest shopping malls of Germany, called "MetrO". Sounds worse than it actually is - its not much like an american shopping mall I believe (not sure though).

    Towns you can skip: Mönchengladbach, Krefeld, Bottrop, Gelsenkirchen

    Regarding tourists: I have never been to the Königsee but tourism is rather small in Germany I'd say. Sure, at the popular places like Schloss Neuschwanstein you will have lots of asiens taking photos like its the end of the world, but less popular or bigger places like lakes or forrests its much better. If you don't travel in the main season you could also lower the amount of tourists, plus its cheaper (traveling/renting rooms is rather expensive I believe). Another thing: A lot of tourists are actually Germans - compared to other Euro-Countries we have less foreign tourists.


    On the subjecte of learning German:
    I never really understand why one wants to learn german. First of all it is hard to learn because of the lack of logic (unregelmäßige Verben :D) and second I think it sounds horrible to non germans. In China I was asked a couple of times why we are always so angry and fighting when we actually had a normal conversation (elftor comic). And the worst part: there are only a few people that speak german. Wikipedia says 120 million, but I doubt that. A lot of people, especially older people speak only in dialect. And there are many dialects. I can understand most of it, but if too people from Switzerland or Saarland speak fast I am unable to follow the conversation. My own grandmother barely speaks high german, I am not even sure if she is able to..

    Anyways, I have teached some chinese students german in the past. There method of learning is..not like the west I guess? Hammer it in till it somehow fits. The result is rather disappointing. The advance fast (1-2 Years and they are able to live in Germany) but once they reach a certain level it seems that most can't go any further, while still doing a lot of mistakes. You can still understand them, but you notice the mistakes anyways. There are exceptions of course
    Imo a better way to learn is through media, at least thats what I like to do. Works great if the language you want to learn has a country that produces good stuff, like the US. Lots of good tv-shows (sopranos, the wire etc. pp.), good movies and literature!
    Sadly Germany (and China) for that matter don't offer this luxury. I dislike a lot of german movies and music and tv is just awful ("Alarm für Cobra 11"...).
    But there are exceptions of course, so here are some tipps what to watch/hear if you want to learn german:
    War-movies - they are pretty much the best movies Germany has to offer imo.
    Das Boot, Der Untergang (Downfall) or Stalingrad are great. Movies about German history can also be very good, like "Das Leben der Anderen" (the lives of others) or "Das weisse Band" (white collar). Other movies are..not so good, comedy in cinema usually suck. I watched "13 Semester" lately, its comedy and its okay - but not really great (wouldn't watch it a second time).
    Music: though one. Some bands might help, like "die Toten Hosen" or "Die Ärzte". Some alternative music is also good (personally I like Mia). German is really great for hiphop, but I think its even more difficult to understand, if you want to give it a try anyways: Freundeskreis, Die Fanatastischen Vier or Brothers Keepers - the last song is about Alberto Adriano who was murdered by Nazi Scum
    There is also a lot of "ghetto rap", but I have no clue about that (maybe Sido?)

    German literature is also great. Problem is, even most germans are unable to read Kafka..maybe Thomas Mann - Der Tod in Venedig?
  11. Grin

    Grin Still Mildly Glowing

    Jul 2, 2006
    Damn Germans.
  12. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Duesseldorf :P !

    also forget about German "ghetto rap". Its just a joke.
  13. Blakut

    Blakut Vault Senior Citizen

    Jan 9, 2008

    I like it cause ther's lots of metal and rock concerts. I'm gonna go see ACDC and Doro.

    However, homework's killing me...
  14. Roflcore

    Roflcore Mildly Dipped

    Nov 2, 2008
    The brits I've met usually wrote dusseldorf :P
  15. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    And the Brits know a lot about Germany I suppose or how the Cities are spoken out :P

    When you say it, its not D U sseldorf, its D UE sseldorf, :P
  16. Member of Khans

    Member of Khans Vault Dweller

    Aug 26, 2004
  17. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    no clue what you mean. Learning english is a heck lot easier then learning German. If you dont have the luck to talk with Germans all the time.

    On the other side. The issue was more about how to pronounce something. French cant really spell "H" and japanese a roling "R" (ARRRRR!!!!), so any pirate movie is hard the japs. Anyway. What ever they say, Düsseldorf is Düsseldorf. Not Dusseldorf :P

    *if you translate Dusseldorf, it would be literaly boobvillage :mrgreen:
  18. Surf Solar

    Surf Solar So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2009

    But, everyone knows Cologne is the town of teh ghei. :lol:
  19. Roflcore

    Roflcore Mildly Dipped

    Nov 2, 2008
    not only teh ghei, but the entire village drinks piss and says its beer..
  20. Dragula

    Dragula Stormtrooper oTO Orderite

    Nov 6, 2008