Google and Dell leaves China

[Starseeker]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gKrY51vO2V86xiICf35Q05J0FIEAD9EKVPPG0

A man takes pictures of the Google China headquarters as a bouquet of flowers is seen on the Google logo in Beijing Wednesday, March 24, 2010. Google's attempted detour around China's Internet censorship rules was met with countermeasures Tuesday by the communist government, which blocked people on the mainland from seeing search results dealing with such forbidden topics as the pro-democracy movement. (AP Photo/Gemunu Amarasinghe)

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/story/2010/03/23/tech-google-china-reaction.html

Google's decision to move most of its China-based search functions to Hong Kong opened a new phase in a two-month-long fracas pitting the world's most powerful internet company against a government that tightly restricts the web in the planet's most populous market.

A few Chinese passers-by laid flowers or chocolates on the large metal Google sign outside the company's office building in northern Beijing. Many Chinese felt caught in the middle, admiring Google for taking a stand against censorship but wondering whether the government might further punish the company.

"I don't know what the Chinese government will do to Google next," said Zhou Shuguang, a well-known blogger who uses the online name "Zuola." "But I welcome the move and support Google because an uncensored search engine is something that I need."

After threatening to quit China over cyberattacks and legally required self-censorship, Google announced early Tuesday Beijing time that its Chinese search engine, google.cn, would automatically redirect queries to its service in Hong Kong, where Google is not legally required to censor searches.

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2010/03/23/pm-google/

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/03/23/as-the-google-turns-what-price-leaving-china/

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/24/dell-looking-outside-of-china-for-safer-environments-accordin/

And, on related news:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/192335/godaddy_to_china_no_more_domains_for_you.html

lol, and some interesting flag waving commentary:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.google24mar24,0,6368743.story

Well, this is quite a breaking news, since it's less than 24 hrs that Google has announced the move.

But this was entirely expected, since China has gotten very good at exploiting foreign companies that are interested in its "huge" markets. You come in with big expectations for this "1.3billion" people market and they will take you, lock, stock and barrel for all your worth. Once they squeeze you dry (whether it be technology, money or technical know how), or you can no longer provide as a incentive or political influence to make some CCP members look good for promotion or otherwise, you are suddenly faced with restrictive laws and rules that your "connections" says you didn't have to worry about.

All of the sudden you will realize that your Chinese competitor is using your (whatever) with their name on it, with a cheaper price, trying to enter your own market.

Some people gets it, while some don't. I just don't understand why some of these biggest and the brightest still fall through the same trap billions of investment before them did.

I also don't really understand why CCP will continue to baby their large corporations even with kick backs. Then again, that's another topic.

 

[Crni Vuk]

Some people gets it, while some don't. I just don't understand why some of these biggest and the brightest still fall through the same trap billions of investment before them did.

For the same reason why Germany and a few other European nations kiss Russias and Chinas asses.

Money.

Its simple as that. We get a lot of gas from Russia and Germany has a few nice deals with China like about mining gear and technology or goods.

Thus talking either about human rights (Rebiya Kadeer and the Uyghur people) in the media or about the situation in Georgia or Russian actions in Chechnya (anna politkowskaja) happens not very frequently.

I mean of course I am realistic and a politican should not go and blame either Putin or the Chinese and their leaders for everything all the time. But when ever they meet with those on a political level its pretty quiet and It seems like we make our self way to depenendant on them economicaly. Particularly with Russia and Gasprom.

 

[Ausdoerrt]

He~, so it actually happened. I never thought they'd have the guts to go through it, but I guess Google was being fucked over too bad. I was wondering why the hell I kept getting redirected to HK Google yesterday...

Also w/e, most people in China know how to bypass the "Firewall" anyway. It's sort of laughable how much money the Party spends on trying to block the Internet. It's like trying to control air supply artificially.

 

[SuAside]

GoDaddy stopped working in China too, although for vastly different (more practical) reasons.