graphics from 1997

Discussion in 'Fallout: Piece of Shit (PS2, XBOX, My Lower Intest' started by Ratty Sr., May 5, 2003.

  1. NgInE

    NgInE Mildly Dipped

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    Jul 20, 2003
    the development of the game is in a to early state for me to judge how much the graphics will suck...they look pretty bad so far, but that doesn't really mean anything. as soon as the game is released and they still have graphics like these, then they should really prepair themselfs for some desk cleaning.
     
  2. Chronus

    Chronus It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jul 30, 2003
    At the same time, there are LOADS of games that look godlike even though they are just Alpha.
    Seen the Half-Life 2 footages from E3? That's Alpha.
    You know those old Doom 3 shots from when it was in alpha?
    Does Van Buren look that bad?(course engine isn't alpha, but game still is).

    IN FACT, I think you'd find it hard to come up with a commercial game(read non-shareware..or wait, even freeware titles look better than POS) that looks any worse.

    Can't we just dip the whole goddamn team working on it in FEV and hope that their IQ actually goes up a few notches. At least then the project won't later change names to Tits!: A post-nuclear action pr0n game....
     
  3. sztupy

    sztupy Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Apr 4, 2003
    Graphics... well I don't know... I don't like the graphics of POS, but I think Fallout 2 graphics were good... and they are still good... Fallout wouldn't be Fallout without them...
    If there will be Fallout 3 the best would be, that the graphics remain the same... I don't want another 3D sh*t... why do today's people think that 3D is the _only_ future... Look at DirectX in DX8 and DX9 2D was wiped out almost completely... Fortunately I still have a copy of DX7 SDK for 2D developements...
    A game isn't good because it's in 3D... and it isn't bad, because it's in 2D, but today's people think so... the question: WHY?
     
  4. Gus

    Gus So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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    Jun 16, 2003
    Because some people freak out when they play a game forcing them to use their brain for other purposes then blowing poeples brains out with some insanely big futuristic giga-nailgun.
     
  5. sztupy

    sztupy Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Apr 4, 2003
    Yeah... but why is the case the same with RPG's or Arcade games... (personally I liked Abe's Odyssey, but that was the last one of it's kind... today we get 3D crap from there too...)
     
  6. Gus

    Gus So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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    Jun 16, 2003
    Blame the developers!
     
  7. sztupy

    sztupy Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Apr 4, 2003
    Blame the publishers... They force the developers to make 3D games...

    oh well... next IanOut Beta is coming on Saturday for 2D fans :)
     
  8. DJ Slamák

    DJ Slamák Brain for eat. Not for think.

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    Apr 2, 2003
    Fallout 3 is confirmed as going to be 3D. However the engine used is that of Project Jefferson, which looks like this, so I'd give it a chance. 3D is getting into the "realistic" zone, imo.
     
  9. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    Hm. I've never seen anything made with the Jefferson engine before. This looks rather good, it's got this eerie atmosphere. So yes, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt too, although I'm not to keen on 3D myself.
    However, saying that the graphics of Fallout and Fallout 2 could still be used to make Fallout 3, is just plain stupid. The graphics of those games are really, really dated nowadays. It's all pixels and the impossibility to change the resolution makes the graphics even worse on my new big screen than they used to be on my old machine.
    I personally hoped that they would be using a hybrid engine, really. You know: 2D environments and 3D characters. Weren't Fallout Tactics and Arcanum made that way? Hm. I know I love the graphics in both of those games: they still have this retro-feeling about them because of the pre-rendered backgrounds (especially Arcanum), but the whole of it is definitely nicer and more up-to-date than any Fallout 3 made with the same engine of Fallout would ever be.
    Hm. I know most of you will not agree with me, but hey: that's what I think about the whole situation.
     
  10. sztupy

    sztupy Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Apr 4, 2003
    Here: A picture of what would Fallout 2 look in 1280x1024... does it look that bad?

    http://ianout.nma-fallout.com/sshot/shot26.jpg

    Nope, they were pre-rendered too...

    For me a good alternate were if Fallout3 used those 3DS meshes, from which the FO2 was created...
     
  11. NgInE

    NgInE Mildly Dipped

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    Jul 20, 2003
    well, 3D itself is not a bad thing. it makes the job of the designers allot easier because it works allot faster then designing everything as prerendered pixels. and it's possible to have more interaction with the enviroment itself when a 3D engine is used.

    i trust the won't make a first person shooter out of this one, so i expect the graphics to be more like Never Winter Nights or something like that.