"Handwaving away" what? Get your head checked, you're the leftist here. You're the one trying to ruin a world your ideology can only harm in you pursuit of power. Get your eyes checked and get your head checked. I made arguments you couldn't handle, and you ignored them. Don't try to revise the past, anyone worth a damn will look back a few pages to verify your claims and see how false they are. You ran away from reality, projected your flaws onto me, and focused on things you thought you could attack me over. Tell me, why should I waste any more time on you when you lack the mental competence necessary to tell when you're wrong? Mother of god, are you just going to keep lying and lying and lying until your incivility and anti-civilization beliefs get the thread locked for a bit? Isn't it funny how you're going to attack me for being a Libertarian when you lack the balls to stand up for your leftist liedeology, its beliefs, its goals, its preachers, or its followers? You are fighting for a cancerous anti-humanist ideology that doesn't even know what truth is. You are fighting for an anti-humanist power-grubbing group of marxists that want to send humanity back to the dark ages. You can't justify that, so you try to waste my time by attacking me. You want me to spend less time pointing out holes in your logic, and more time defending myself from what you accuse me of. If you hate the principles America was founded on so much, why don't you just fuck off to a country like North Korea or Venezuela, where your policies have already ruined things and your corrupt politicians are already in charge? Why must parasites like you live to try and force the disasters you cause onto others? You support gun bans and want to force gun bans onto everyone else. You can't justify why you want to do evil things like that, but you want to do it anyway. You're a violent coward constantly pushing for a civil war because you are against the principles and virtues America was founded upon. If you died from a heart attack tomorrow, the world would be a better place for everyone who wants to live in peace. Humanity's fundamental human rights would be a little safer, because the world would contain one less insane irrational ideologue trying to destroy what he can't appreciate or understand. Don't you ever feel bad about being someone the world would be better off without? It's the truth, but it's still a little fucked up. Isn't it fucked up that you want to take humanity's human rights away? Isn't it fucked up that the founding fathers of America would have hated you? The constitution was written up to determine which rights and "privileges" should be protected at all costs and defended with force if necessary. They wrote that constitution to determine which fundamental human rights should be above debate and out of the poisonous reach of you and those like you. Patriots humor you and your corrupt criminal party and the obvious lies it tells and forgives you for the crimes it commits. And it gains nothing in return. No compromise between the truth and your lies will ever please you. You will never stop aiding and abetting terrorists, rapists, muggers, and mass shooters. You and your politicians and your party will never stop trying to profit from the mass shootings you enable. You've watched enough far-left trending-tab lefty talk shows to become permanently brainwashed. You aren't a human, you're just an NPC. An enemy NPC. You want to make the world a worse place for everyone, because you want to make the world a worse place for those who don't agree with you. And you don't care who gets hurt along the way. You want me dead more than you want to live. You want me to starve more than you want to eat. You might not be able to form a coherent argument against the idea of universal human rights, but you are the ultimate argument against that idea. The human right to free speech has already been eroded and chipped away into a mockery of its former self. Some things are just illegal to say. Some political positions are just illegal. Leftists are to blame for that. But watch this, everyone. I'll make this shapeshifting rodent in front of me temporarily turn into a supporter of free speech. This amazing transformation will not last forever, he will forget this when he's done trying to protect HIS rights and freedoms, and he will eventually resume attacking and eroding the rights and freedoms of others once he's able to think his rights/freedoms are secure again. Tell me, lefty. If your evil tribe wants it to be illegal for anyone to say "It's wrong for male athletes to compete in women's sports" or "If you try to take our guns we will fight back and it will be Civil War 2 Electric Boogaloo", why shouldn't right-wingers make it illegal for you to say anything leftist like "Ban guns, ban speech that offends me, go and harass and attack Trump supporters, fuck white people, all whites are inherently racist, fuck white culture, kill all men, kill the rich but not the ones funding us, fuck CEOs but not the CEOs of megacorps that agree with us, white people can't cook, America was never great"? You're the violent and impressionable ones, and you're the ones who can't be trusted with the right to say violent or offensive things. Why should you get the right to call for our deaths, if you don't want anyone else be allowed to call you wrong? Maxine Walters didn't get shot for openly and publically calling for violence against conservatives, Steve Scalise got shot because of people like Maxine Walters. James Hodgkinson was a Liberal like you, he was in many anti-Trump facebook groups that regularly fantasize about Trump and republicans getting shot, and he's why people like you shouldn't be trusted with guns.