Gun Control

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Throatpunch, Jul 25, 2016.

  1. Dayglow Drifter

    Dayglow Drifter Mildly Dipped

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    Sep 25, 2018
    Yeah it made sense during a time like WWI as well when the easiest way to make a semi-automatic rifle would just be giving a pistol a buttstock and long barrel, but at this point there's nothing you could use that for that another gun wouldn't be able to do better.

    After the collapse of the USSR the average life expectancy for a Russian man fell below 60, which is essentially 3rd world conditions.
     
  2. Nah I'm moving to Germany as a registered shithead so I can be cucked by the police because at-least there is a sense of community.

    I think it has mostly to do with the fact that being a white, middle-aged, bald guy doesn't ruin your fucking sex life.
     
  3. SilverStarApple/Epsilon7

    SilverStarApple/Epsilon7 Still Mildly Glowing

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    Oct 27, 2017
    Hoooooo boy. Guess it's no surprise those who survived the USSR's fall were the ones who didn't get arrested for opposing communism. It's a shame you lack the IQ to figure that out. I don't think the opinions of those nostalgic for that black stain on Russia's history is worth much.

    Well, you seem like a lost cause already, but let's see what else you said.

    Oh wow, I scrolled up and you really are one.

    Listen, buddy, leftism is a cult that lies and gaslights for power. What you think you are doesn't matter. The fact is, you're stanning an ideology that failed and died long ago, with the most shameful tactics out there.

    Beep boop orange man bad, beep boop orange-haired pony bad. I could show you a video that explains why marxism is wrong, but you wouldn't listen to it.

    Now tag out and send in another clown from your commie collective.

    edit: wait no, don't. This is the Gun Control thread, where people casually discuss firearms until a leftist shows up to embarass itself by fighting for the forced disarmament of everyone except the communists, even after the recent communist takeover of certain American locations.

    So it's time you fucked off back to a communist containment thread or communist containment site. In this thread, a part of your side's evil is exposed and debunked.
     
  4. KingArthur

    KingArthur Satanic Cyanide

    Jun 25, 2018
    @SilverStarApple/Epsilon7 listen man, maybe you need to fuck off. EVERYONE is welcome on NMA, ESPECIALLY fans of Bethesda :lol:
     
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  5. Dayglow Drifter

    Dayglow Drifter Mildly Dipped

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    Sep 25, 2018
    How long do you think that Stalinism lasted, out of curiosity?

    Or you could articulate your beliefs using your own words like a normal, rational person.
     
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  6. ResetRPG

    ResetRPG W/ my Girlfriend :-)

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    Dec 16, 2018
    LMAO bruh what, you're extrapolating so fucking hard how stupid can you be, of course they would be against it, but GUESS WHAT, the VAST MAJORITY OF SOVIET CITIZENS did not get arrested, you can cherry pick all you want but it doesn't change the fact that you generalize anti communists in the USSR to be the entirety of the population.

    All I have brought to this debate has been factual assessments of what leftists believe in, you have literally done NOTHING but gaslight this entire fucking debate, you wanna know why you can't pull up any fucking sources that aren't funded by conservative dark money? It's because you're FUCKING WRONG, jfc. also, inb4 the 100 million, the vast majority of 20th century historians and CO WRITERS of the black book of communism have disavowed that total because it relies on faulty statistics. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism#Criticism - "Moreover, two of the book's main contributors—Nicolas Werth and Jean-Louis Margolin—as well as Karel Bartosek publicly disassociated themselves from Courtois' statements in the introduction and criticized his editorial conduct. Werth and Margolin felt Courtois was "obsessed" with arriving at a total of 100 million killed which resulted in "sloppy and biased scholarship" and faulted him for exaggerating death tolls in specific countries. They also argued that based on the results of their studies, one can tentatively estimate the total number of the victims at between 65 and 93 million") I can show you the millions dead through capitalist failings, but I assume you'll say it wasn't capitalism or some bullshit excuse libertarian types bring up.


    Yeah orange man is bad, but because he is a pedophile corporate hack who immediately sold out to wall street and cut taxes for the rich and wealthy whilst enhancing America's drone program in countries we should have no being in, not because he said mean thing that hurt my feefees. Also, for the record, I consider myself a Longist, the ideology of American Progressive and Rural populist, Huey Long (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_Long) and I have my own criticisms of Marx (most notably the complete abolition of private property and is outdated in the modern world, and if you apply principles of dialectical materialism to our modern world, you would come to a vastly different conclusion than socialism), but literally all of the right wing Marx take-down vids literally have either never read Marx, have extremely horrible assessments of Marxist philosophy and dialectical materialism (fun fact, marx is considered the father of sociology- (https://study.com/academy/lesson/the-sociological-theories-of-karl-marx.html#:~:text=In the 19th century, a,the workers within that system.&text=Marx formulated these into a,of sociology as a discipline.)

    This is such a stupid fucking claim that I've already fucking debunked, you cannot have a revolution without guns, socialism requires revolution, thus, you can make the cogent inductive claim, socialists support gun ownership, do you at least understand Intro to Logic concepts or are you that fucking stupid? Also, you don't want to fuel counterrevolutions by voluntarily supporting counterrevolutionary forces, Americans in the revolutionary war wouldn't support arming their own enemies? It's seriously not that hard, but this is all probably in vain since he'll likely come back with another dumb as fuck appeal to pity post about why I ACTUALLY DON'T SUPPORT GUN OWNERSHIP despite having read leftist theory for a solid year of my life. I seriously think this fucker can barely read or is being deliberately ignorant. Maybe try reading this-https://socialistra.org/about/

    Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun

    Also, the irony in this comment, you were the one who brought up leftists and leftism, so kindly stop gaslighting.
     
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  7. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Turn down the insults and ad-hominems, dickheads.
     
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  8. KingArthur

    KingArthur Satanic Cyanide

    Jun 25, 2018
    Or in other words, we should watch our fucking language.
     
  9. SilverStarApple/Epsilon7

    SilverStarApple/Epsilon7 Still Mildly Glowing

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    Oct 27, 2017
    I'll never understand why commies simp so hard for the blatant authoritarianism, corruption, and fascism of communist shitholes in the past and present... and then insist everyone who doesn't love them enough is a "nazi".

    We've seen what commies have done to populations they've disarmed. Even now, commies are arming themselves as their "Liberal" allies preach anti-gun and anti-gun culture lies. They're on the same anti-humanist side, sadly.
     
  10. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    God, I'm so tired of these posts.
    "Reeee lefties commies anti-humanists want to disarm everyone but themselves reeeeee"
    Over and over and over again. Fine. Kindly fuck off back to Deviant Art, I'm sure they'll love to hear all about how the evil commies on NMA banned you. Well, guess what, you got your wish. Vindication at last! The evil commies banned you from an unimportant Internet forum. Farewell, you fucking welsh hobo.

    /edit:
    So back on topic, apparently the M1 Carbine is specifically banned in New Jersey? What's up with that? Seems to me as if it's a neat little home defense rifle, small, a bit more powerful than a pistol, but even less recoil than a .223, so very, very easy to shoot.
    It's classified as an "assault weapon", which is all sorts of bullshit when you think about it. .30 Carbine is barely an intermediate cartridge, and it was never even supposed to be an offensive weapon. Oh well, legal definitions.
    Might also have to do with the 1967 Plainfield Riots.
     
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  11. SquidWard

    SquidWard Pirate and Bankrobber oTO Orderite

    Jun 1, 2018
    My favorite part was calling him calling TheGM a leftist. Shows how delusional someone can get.

    Thank you Hass for sparing us from this strange, brony evil.
     
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  12. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    I think in some states sodomy is still illegal so ot could be one of those quirky laws.

    Liberals could be scared cause converted to MM, it has the same diameter of a 7.62 round, with slight differences like pressure.

    I was always taught that you can use 223 in 556 chambered rifles but not 556 for 223 chambered rifles.
     
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  13. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Vietnam? I thought it was only used by scouts there (with last more extensive use being in Korea), with the main infantry rifle being the M14.
    As for the caliber, I find it interesting that the .30 Carbine is, at first glance, very similar to the 7.92x33 mm Kurz used in the Stgw. 44, except that round has quite a bit more oomph to it.
    While the caliber of the bullet and the length of the case is the same or similar, the 7.92 mm Kurz is necked and has a much thicker base diameter and slightly higher bullet weight, not to mention that the 7.92 mm Kurz is pointed while .30 Carbine is rounded.
    I want an SKS. Those would actually be somehow legal in Germany for sport shooters and hunters.
     
  14. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    They seem to have a thing against carbines and bullpups. looks like the aug and famas are banned too.
    Well I did want his named changed. obviously only the left of the left would stoop so low.
     
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  15. Dayglow Drifter

    Dayglow Drifter Mildly Dipped

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    Sep 25, 2018
    His current name plus the Brony avi is cringe enough, in my opinion.
     
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  16. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    Well, the ARVN was given a lot of them and saw widespread use. With U.S. forces, some were used all the way until the fall of Saigon.

    Anyways, it seems silly but I was always enamored with the 'look', of a weapon. While I am not a fan of bullpups, you have to admit the Tavor looks fucking amazing.
     
  17. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    I'll leave it like it is, makes it easier for other people to find him and his spergary here. He's been getting BTFO'd out of communities for years, always using the same names. Deviant Art seems to tolerate him the most, but I guess that's mostly due to people being able to ignore him there.
    Since the brony is still reading this to cry about it on DA: Hey, no need for any doxing or admin magic, any cursory googling of your name revealed shit-ton of powerleveling on your part.
     
  18. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    If cringe was the goal sure. My goal was hilarity and I got called a leftists out of it.

    So I would call that a success.
    Gun Jesus talked about that. People often think of .30 Carbine as a bigger pistol bullet but it is essentially a redesigned .351 rifle round.
     
  19. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Yeah, just found it funny that both Americans and Germans came up with cartridges of very similar nominal dimensions but from different approaches and for different purposes.
     
  20. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    It seems to an idea people were kicking around for a while before figuring out what to do with it.

    That is the Burton LMR and the .345 SL. both from the first world war. that little bullet looks familiar don't it.