How to set CORRECT widescreen resolution for Fallout 2

Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by Magnus, Jun 8, 2017.

  1. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    There's not more aliasing, the aliased edges stay basically the same, they just stand out a little more because they're not as blurry as the rest.

    Areas with more contrast/hard edges are blurred less, which makes them stand out to me:
    smudge3.gif

    Might just be me, I generally dislike such enhancements and I usually prefer the look the game originally had.
     
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  2. Risewild

    Risewild Carbon Dated and Proud
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    Jun 14, 2014
    Not just you, my eyes are very sensitive to anything blurry and I couldn't even look at the screenshots properly in their full size because it just made my eyes bad.
     
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  3. miracle.flame

    miracle.flame First time out of the vault

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    Oct 26, 2013
    Very well, my intention was to receive better alternative on how to deal with the heavy dithering which is a very obvious and very well known issue of the vanilla graphics. My eyes and not mine only are very sensitive to color contrast as a result of grain or dithering and not real detail. The altered syntax of calculation I've come up with in the shader configuration is the best I've calculated not to smudge the details but rather soften the dithering only, meaning the dithering remains but the color contrast caused by the dithering is much softer and not that heavy. I admit the pictures posted here are by themselves blurry overall as the result of compression and whatnot but the kind of difference between before/after state should give you an idea what kind of difference to expect in game....
    if you bother to test it out, that is.

    But if the heavy dithering of vanilla graphics is something you wish to preserve unchanged there is no reason for discussion over enhancing this intention.
     
  4. Magnus

    Magnus Water Chip? Been There, Done That
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    Dec 6, 2007
    I am vomiting just looking at these screenshots, this is exactly the effect that I was trying to avoid.
    I appreciate the effort you put into it, but I can't play like that.

    See now, THIS is what I'm talking about. Even the addict in the corner agrees with me. Everything is crisp and clear, like God intended.

     
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  5. hexer

    hexer It's PJ! Modder

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    Dec 7, 2013
    I'm sticking with the upscaled 4:3 because I can't stand how the various UI screens are broken-looking when they're not covering the entire screen.
     
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  6. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    Apr 24, 2005
    I'm confused. What exactly looks broken? The only thing I never liked was that leather belt, but the alternate metal looks fine to me. The wide message log window can be reverted in the options, though here I also can't see why someone wouldn't want it.
     
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  7. hexer

    hexer It's PJ! Modder

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    Dec 7, 2013
    When I open the Character, Options, Dialog or Pip Boy screens I can't get used to how they're not covering the entire screen anymore.
    It's a personal thing but after playing classic Fallouts for 20 years one way, it's hard to make a switch inside my head now.
     
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  8. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Moderator Modder

    Apr 24, 2005
    For dialog you can set in the options that everything around it is black. Thus, you'll only see that interface. All other screens fit pretty well, imo. Never noticed anything off.

    Besides, by default an alternative interface graphic is being used for the dialog screen (with borders, to make it look better without the black space). If you don't disable that, even in lower resolutions, you did not play "classic" Fallout for years already. :>
     
  9. hexer

    hexer It's PJ! Modder

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    Dec 7, 2013
    I played it on my 15 inch monitor but now I'm thinking of buying a new one.
     
  10. Redkai26

    Redkai26 First time out of the vault

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    Apr 8, 2022
    And what about doing the same with Fallout 1? i cannot find a way and there's plenty of gameplays on YT that has that type of widescreen pls help!!! i mean, for some reason in my laptopwith Windows 10 it lags a lot when using fullscreen and just runs well in windowed or windowed fullscreeen nut it means it has a so much tiny UI and text, i just tested in FO 2 this metod and with the instruvtions given by another dude in another site, it worked, but it requires SFALL it seems and FO 1 doesn´t have such a thing, does it?
    I'd like to have my game as in this video:
     
  11. gustarballs1983

    gustarballs1983 Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 28, 2009
    First off.. Fallout1 has been ported to Fo2 engine quite some time ago. recently v1.7 version of the conversion came out.. It needs configuration, but it works.. Secondly if you want to experience everything in Fo1 engine, then there's the outdated Fallout FIXT0.81a . It comes with built in High Resolution patch *and* an outdated sfall, build specifically for Fo1 by a Russian modder. Thirdly Both the HRP for Fo1 and sfall1 are available to download online. You just need to to a bit of google search..
     
  12. Redkai26

    Redkai26 First time out of the vault

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    Apr 8, 2022
    But him isnt using sfall i figured out that you can literally move ddraw.ini and ddraw.dll to a deafult Fallout 1 folder (i'm trying to figure this for my brother but he has already started a game and a i said that thing of installing sfall1 that way actually works but i dont know how to maintain 16:9 aspect ratio and zoom in and make bigger the UI at the same time (i've benn trying configs in f1_res_Config.exe and using 2x scale maintains 4:3 ratio and Black Bars, omg really i'm starting to get deseperate rally i don't know what to do hahaha
     
  13. Redkai26

    Redkai26 First time out of the vault

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    Apr 8, 2022
    Oh and changing sfall video mods just make my game crash
     
  14. gustarballs1983

    gustarballs1983 Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 28, 2009
    Fo2 ddraw.dll and ddraw.ini don't work for original Fo1 ( sfall1 by crafty only works for fo1) If you want to use Fo2 stuff install Fallout:Et Tu, so called Fo1 in Fo2 engine.
    sfall1 is hard to find where as standard sfall works only on Fo2 engine (both Fo2 and all of it's mods) Fo:EtTu is a fallout 2 mod..

    to pull off what you want in F01 You need both sfall1 and high resolution patch 4.1.8 for Fo1 version. simply put patch the executable to enable High resolution patch and set your monitor resolution and colour bits to 32 bit + set 2x scaling in f2res.ini. no need to set dx9 mode or resolution in sfall1 then.
    standard sfall from Fo2 will *not* work for fallout1 engine. For fallout 1 engine you need both sfall and HRP made specially for Fallout1. Fallout 1 and Fallout2 engines are not the same.

    Simplest solution is to get Fallout:EtTu and play Fo1 that way all Fo2 modifications work with it.

    No woonder as i said above You're using sfall and HRP for/from Fallout2. this way it will not work for fallout1 you either need to switch to fallout:ettu and set it up, or download FO1 HRP + sfall1 by crafty specifically made for Fo1 ( HRP needs to be enabled by a patcher first then)
     
  15. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Nov 26, 2007
    The differences are enough to make out the image; including the UI.

    source.png

    You mainly lose highlight details, noticeably on the dog's ears; though actually from everything on screen. The bookshelf in the top left does change—albeit almost unnoticeably; same for the dog.
     
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  16. Redkai26

    Redkai26 First time out of the vault

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    Apr 8, 2022
    w
    where do i get sfall1? and how i install it?
     
  17. gustarballs1983

    gustarballs1983 Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 28, 2009
    HRP for Fo1 is here: https://falloutmods.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_1_High_Resolution_Patch

    and sfall for Fo1 is here: http://fforum.kochegarov.com/index.php?showtopic=29288

    be advised that kochegarov forum is in russian, so You'll have to show your skill with the translator to find it, ( or if You're a smart one You'll find it right away), just so You know Crafty is probably alter ego of Mr.Stalin, who recently went AWOL and decided to pull his toys from the internet, so that only those supporting the cause of Russian goverment could use them, sfall1 crashes the game a lot too and is porobably compatible only with US1.1 .exe.

    anyways You've got what You've asked for.. now go and tinker with this stuff so that you could play.
     
  18. mandala

    mandala It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    May 5, 2006
    Not to be a grave digger but i found this to be a real useful post, my favourite configuration


    Would anybody know how to apply this to Fallout 1 with Fixt installed?
     
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