In the future, zombies go "Rargh"

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Per, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. Per

    Per Vault Consort Staff Member Admin

    Apr 1, 2004
    NMA member SNorth (or Stephen A. North as some may call him) is known in the community as former lead writer on the Mutants Rising project and author of horror novel Dead Tide, which features zombies. His second novel Barren Earth, co-written with Eric S. Brown, is now available for purchase, and it's a post-apocalyptic story of spacefarers returning from their five year mission to... zombie-ravaged Earth! The kind of story I know you people have been waiting for forever.
     
  2. SNorth

    SNorth Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Mar 13, 2004
    Thanks Per! I hope to have a more mainstream post-apocalyptic novel out later this year. Might even be able to follow it up with a second PA story early next year. I just couldn't pass up working with the King of Zombie Stories, Eric S. Brown. We had a great time writing it. Hope you enjoy it.
     
  3. UnidentifiedFlyingTard

    UnidentifiedFlyingTard Vault Fossil

    Mar 12, 2009
    Makes me want to get off my ass and finish my graphic novel script.
     
  4. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    Do people actually buy these self-published novels? Just wondering.

    Also, this E.S. Brown, on his page he writes:
    170 short stories? Plus 40-plus articles? In the last two years?

    This guy on crystal meth or something?
     
  5. babadook

    babadook Lived Through the Heat Death
    Orderite

    Apr 2, 2005
    Don't go there alec. You'll get your books published. Someday.

    But yeah, he seems very productive.
     
  6. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    This has to be the most vicious thing I've read here. Good job :lol:
     
  7. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    How would that be vicious? Dude: even my lowbrow cooking books get published by established publishing houses.

    And it's simply a question, honestly. I agree there might be some sarcasm in it, but I still would like to know whether there is actually an audience for these things, 'cause these "publish your own book and sell it via us" sites are popping up everywhere, so someone has got be getting rich out of it and I'm afraid it's not the authors.

    I also doubt that I'm the only one who wonders whether a productivity of 170 stories + 40-plus articles in two years, well, if that isn't a bit overkill and potentially tells us something about the inherent quality of said material as well?

    Can you mayhaps just let SNorth answer those questions for me, please?
     
  8. hakimio

    hakimio It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Feb 27, 2009
    That's about 1 short story per week. They all must be alike or he is genius... Need to randomly pick few and see....
     
  9. Radwaster

    Radwaster It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Apr 1, 2009
    hakimio wrote:
    Uhhh - the original quote doesn't say he wrote them all in the last two years. :roll:

    Anyway short stories/articles - a few pages each? It's still a good output and good publishing record, but not as if he's written 170 300+ page novels...
     
  10. SNorth

    SNorth Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Mar 13, 2004
    First off, the publisher of this book, Barren Earth is a small press called Library of the Living Dead. He uses CreateSpace to actually 'make' the books.

    Eric S. Brown has written over fifteen novels. Most of them in the zombie genre, and the most notable of them due to its audacity was a re-write of H.G. Wells novel War of the Worlds. His best so far, in my opinion is Season of Rot. From working with him, I can tell you that he is relentless. The project will get done. A comparable type would be Christopher Parks. Given this work ethic I have no doubt that he has written that many short stories in two years. Have to leave for work gentlemen. I called Eric the King of the Zombie Story for a reason. He hasn't disappointed me.
    Alec, if you have ever considered writing horror, and by chance are having trouble finding a publisher, my publisher has a second imprint called the Library of Horror. No sarcasm intended. I've enjoyed your sense of humor over the years.
     
  11. lisac2k

    lisac2k Vault Senior Citizen
    Modder

    Oct 26, 2004
    Good to see you're still alive and kickin' Steve! A small reminder for the younger generations, we spent some time together working on Mutants Rising... Good ol' times.

    Too bad I'm not a big fan of zombies, but I bet it's a novel worth reading!
     
  12. Wooz

    Wooz Vault Sweeper Admin Orderite

    May 18, 2003
    It says they were "published", not "written" during this time-period.
     
  13. Dude101

    Dude101 Vault Fossil
    Modder

    Aug 3, 2005
    Congrats Steve. I look forward to reading it. As soon as we finish MR(2), I plan on finally finishing my book. Hopefully NMA will whore mine as well hehe.

    Steve is a great writer, and I have learnt allot from his writing style. Taking over a creative lead at MR was not easy, as I had to fill the boots of an actual author (not just some noob "writer"on the interwebz).
     
  14. SNorth

    SNorth Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Mar 13, 2004
    Hey Slaven! Good to see you around still. Youra new project is looking great.

    Tom, you not only filled my boots you needed a larger size. You, Chris and the other guys have done a great job. And as soon as your book is done, I'll be first in line to buy a copy.

    If it will clear up any questions of quality, I am willing to post a chapter or two from either Dead Tide or Barren Earth. Let me know if that interests any of you.

    Hey Wooz, been a long time man. Que pasa?

    One final thing, Eric asked me to pass on this link for anyone interested in his other works:

    http://www.myspace.com/esbrown4
     
  15. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    :D

    I did some amateur calculus and such a productivity combined with the literary quality you all seem to imply it possesses, would be a feat comparable to the productivity and constant high quality of, say, a Schulz and a Mozart. So forgive me for being a little sceptical about that.

    But hey: what do I know? I just always have this tendency to compare writers to other writers, you know? And here I'm thinking about Katherine Mansfield with her meagre oeuvre of some 40 short stories. Or Donald Barthelme, another second rate writer, who wrote little over a 100 of them. Oh, and a couple of novels, but even in that discipline Eric S. Brown is clearly superior. I just... I admit... it's jealousy. It's just my sick twisted ego who can't take this kind of injustice. I just don't think it's fair that some people have been given such godlike talents while others like me and Mansfield and Barthelme have to struggle so much to be heard. I'm not kidding. I often spend several weeks on one stupid poem and even then I'm often still unsatisfied with the result. That sucks. It's just totally unfair. And financially, it's just impossible to pay your bills with that. So yeah, I confess that I am sickingly jealous of someone with such a criminally high productivity and a constant quality. It's the same with you, Wooz. I look at your drawings and then I look at mine and I'm totally like 'Why does his work remind me of all the great artists that came before me while my work just looks like nothing those great minds ever came up with?' And that's when you know that you'll never be that big. That's when you know you just don't have what it takes. I hope you can now all understand why I lose my temper sometimes. It's just so hard now and then. A man would just murder to have golden hands like that. I know I would.

    :roll:

    Anyway, grudges aside, I wish SNorth the best with his second novel. Gawd knows I know how hard it is to successfully finish a project of that size, so: respect. I'm not kidding.

    -- alec
     
  16. Eyenixon

    Eyenixon Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 11, 2008
    Alec, people who don't second guess their work are dipshits. Doubting yourself is a mucho importante part of being a writer, Philip K. Dick nearly hemorrhaged because of what he had to do with his characters and his obsessions with getting his work perfect. You don't improve if you don't tear your writing apart with constant editing, cut out segments you thought were 'so great' but just ended up being tripe in retrospective.
    It took Joyce years to write most of his books, writing talent develops with age but only if the writer has the perseverance to stick through his self-perceived shittiness and eventually come to the point where he realizes that the only thing he needs to pay attention to his own voice and his own standard of quality. Comparing yourself to someone else's productivity or standards is pointless, you grow as a writer by reading, but you don't judge your own writing by comparing it to the voice and standards of other authors.

    Eventually, it all comes down to writing for yourself and realizing that ultimately if you have the talent, anything you think interesting will be interesting for others, but as I said, writing talent manifests slowly.
    But that doesn't mean you should sit back, keep doubting yourself, that's just the way any decent writer should be.

    I'm working on a novel right now as well, and I've put in an inhuman amount of research, deftly picking away at characters and their individual psyches and drawing plot threads together in an almost psychotic display of single mindedness. I edit finished portions daily and write a couple of thousand words or so daily. That's a lot for a single day, but eight tenths of that stuff is going to be cut away in a week.
    Honestly, there is no writer on earth that writes shit in weeks or in a month who can call his own work quality.

    Your anger is entirely normal and should be encouraged.
     
  17. SNorth

    SNorth Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Mar 13, 2004
    Alec, I couldn't write a poem to save my life. I don't forsee any comparisons of my work to the literary greats either. When I gave up on my dreams for roughly twelve years, each day was like staring down a gun barrel. I finally woke up, and realized I had a new lease on life. I don't compare myself to Eric or anyone else. I would like to be the Stephen King of Florida, though. I have my dreams. I hope you never lose yours. I wish you success and the happines that comes hand in hand with it.

    Eyenixon, what kind of novel are you working on?
     
  18. Eyenixon

    Eyenixon Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 11, 2008
    Difficult to describe, a sort of psychological thriller I guess you could call it.
     
  19. 4too

    4too Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 30, 2003
    Head 'em Off At The Past!

    Head 'em Off At The Past!




    So ""who done it"" is reversed engineered to fabricate / facilitate ""it done by whom""?

    Jus' askin'.:?



    4too
     
  20. NFSreloaded

    NFSreloaded Still Mildly Glowing

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    May 5, 2009
    Barren Earth's story sounds interesting. I might read it if I ever get my hands on it.

    Also, is everyone here suddenly a writer; alec, Wooz, UFT? :o