Is KOTOR worth playing?

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Atomic Postman, Nov 18, 2020.

  1. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
    Was thinking about playing KOTOR 1 + 2 but not sure whether i'll bother.

    Opinions on KOTOR/recommendations/comments whatever wanted
  2. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010


    That's it. Good games.
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  3. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
  4. TheOtherManInTheRoom

    TheOtherManInTheRoom Watchman

    Mar 28, 2018
    KOTOR 1 is a nice game, lovely to play though not too surprising bar the twist (and if you don't know it don't bother trying to be clever and guessing it and you'll be better for it.)

    KOTOR 2 might be the best piece of Star Wars media written, in the same way PST might be that for DnD, unsurprisingly given who wrote both. You have to play it differently from 1 (can be more specific if you want, it is one of those where, to my mind there is a 'right way' to play, to experience it fully) and it is a must to play 1 first to get there. Also, don't bother with the patches or people telling you it isn't finished or whatever. 90% of the cut content should have stayed cut and its a nice thing to go play it with patches on a second playthrough. Vanilla is just fine, honest.

    As I say, can elaborate on anything there, should you or anyone wish.
  5. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
    My attraction is because I was reading about the Mandalorian Wars after watching the show and vaguely knowing about Jedi-Mando conflict and tbqh the Mando Wars sounded sick as fuck and apparently that's all KOTOR
  6. Alphons

    Alphons National Beholder

    Aug 9, 2017
    It's more "you know that WAR that happened a while back and affected the entire galaxy, you took part in it".

    KOTOR 1 is an OK Bioware game.
    Has several memorable moments, companions ranging from alright to really good, you get 2 slightly diverging paths near the end depending whether you played a selfless hero or retarded psycho.

    KOTOR 2 is a worse game than the first one- it's less polished, has more bugs than first KOTOR and more cut content than New Vegas.
    If you pick it up, definitely install Restoration Patch.
    While a worse game on technical level, I enjoyed it more than KOTOR 1.
    Story is definitely more interesting, antagonists and companions are more fleshed out and there's finally some nuance to picking Dark Side and even an option to stay Neutral.
    Several new Force powers and perks, option to have a second loadout and the blaster only build not sucking are great additions to the combat.
  7. Stanislavsky

    Stanislavsky First time out of the vault

    Mar 7, 2020
    I LOVED the first one, not sure how well it handles today tough. As for KOTOR 2, got bored at some point. Start with the first one.
  8. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Not Gollum Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
  9. Risewild

    Risewild Carbon Dated and Proud
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    Definitely yes.
  10. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    I recommend digging out a CRT for the full feeling of how things used to be better.
    Seriously though, CRTs look better with these older games, especially those that don't work well with 16:9.
  11. Chromevod

    Chromevod Nope.

    May 25, 2011
    If you play KOTOR 2, there's a few PC mods that can fix some of the glitches that can occur. Also a restoration mod to restore some of the cut content that has dialogue cues still in the game but are unreachable.
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  12. Iprovidelittlepianos

    Iprovidelittlepianos A Smooth-Skin

    May 12, 2020
    The Mandalorian Wars play an important role in the backstory of the KOTOR games, but the war itself has been over for at least a decade or so by the time the first game starts. Still, you get a badass ex-Mandalorian companion that talks about it a lot (in both games).

    Also, I don’t think that the Jedi-Mandalorian wars mentioned in The Mandalorian (I assume that’s the show you’re talking about) are the same as the wars talked about in the kotor games. Kotor takes place 4000 years before the OT, and I believe there was another Jedi-Mando conflict that took place roughly 1000 years before the OT. Keep in my mind that kotor isn’t “canon” anymore, so the events of the game and it’s backstory likely have little to do with any lore introduced by the tv show.
  13. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Not Gollum Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    Nah. They are borrowing that EU lore so it mostly happened. The entire series is shit you mostly remember happening.
  14. Proletären

    Proletären Vault Fossil
    Staff Member Admin

    Mar 15, 2012
    KOTOR1 really stinks. It was the most boring and predicable excuse of an RPG I have ever played. You're basically limited to two options when you resolve quests. Either good or evil. Choose good and you get light side points, choose evil and get dark side points. There is no nuance. However KOTOR2 introduce some nuance and pose the question what constitutes evil? And what is good? Things that appear evil in the moment could actually be good in the long run. It's all about perspective. This makes KOTOR2:s take on the light and dark side of the force much more interesting.

    Maybe you could play KOTOR1 to get the backstory and learn the gameplay however don't expect it to be enjoyable. KOTOR2 has a good story and rich characters but the gameplay is the same lackluster shit.
  15. Jogre

    Jogre So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 25, 2015
    Wow, people tend to be very divided on this issue:

    Personally having played both, my favourite is KOTOR 1. Some people have said it lacks surprise, and is straightforwardly good and evil, and I kinda disagree. Like, most options are just "Light side or Dark Side", sure, but there are so many moments where the game stands out and actually introduces a lot of ambiguity to the Star Wars universe that expands upon the films
    The humanisation of the Tusken Raiders and their exploitation at the hands of Czercha, The neutrality of the Selkath and how both the Republic and Sith are illegally violating the peace of Manan to spy on each other and the Selkath, ect.

    The ending is kinda lame, but you know, at least it has a coherent ending, I know that's a low blow but...

    My stance is that both of these games are fantastic takes on the Star Wars universe and you should absolutely play them.
  16. mobucks

    mobucks jetski Orderite

    May 22, 2010
    I loved both games.
  17. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    This is like asking if silent hill 2 is worth playing. It's a legitimate classic piece of media. Of course it's worth playing.
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  18. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    I love KOTOR. One of the best Star Wars things ever.

    KOTOR2 kinda sucks if you don't buy into Chris Avellone saying Star Wars is horrifying due to the Force (God) being real.

    It's Star Wars: Pillars of Eternity basically.