Should NCR collapse and the games return to the West Coast?

Discussion in 'Future Fallout Game Discussion' started by CT Phipps, Sep 21, 2016.

  1. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    ...Except they won't want to do this. The West Coast ones already abandoned their cause and simply want to be left alone.
     
  2. Izak

    Izak I Shot The ALBATROSS

    Jan 29, 2016
    Were the vats ever properly destroyed? Can the Chosen One blow them up, again? If not then there are still a few batches of FEV at Mariposa.
     
  3. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    A century of abuse from humans and NCR can get people to reconsider their position.
     
  4. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    You do realise most of them are hiding away right? That's why Super Mutants in New Vegas are depicted in remote locations. Anyways, I'm done talking with you.

    I recall that most of the vats at the Military Base was destroyed and the remainder was collected by the Enclave? I'm not too sure about this part.
     
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  5. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    Random aside, I think Fallout 2's most touching moment was the Super Mutants working side by side with ghouls and humans to mine uranium.

    It reminded me of Warcraft 3 except good writing.
     
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  6. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    I disagree. I like the fact that in some places life has recovered to some degree. Societies with a large population and technology aren't just going to disappear.

    Instead of having the NCR collapse, surely it would be better to just focus elsewhere? Such as Wyoming or some other location untouched by NCR or Legion. Something we haven't seen yet. That's what I'd like to see.

    EDIT: No more FEV. Maybe you meet a lone Super Mutant, but that's it. No "new" mutants.
     
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  7. cordelionreaver

    cordelionreaver Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    410
    Nov 29, 2015
    I don't understand why people complain that the NCR is too civilized. It is 210 years after the apocalypse, society is going to rebuild in that amount of time.
     
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  8. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    Which is why we need to take it down!

    :)




    "Why be so selfish and hoard all those Brahmin?"
     
  9. NovaRain

    NovaRain Casual Modder Modder

    Mar 10, 2007
    I really like the idea. I don't mind if there's a small expedition group of NCR or Legion (like trying to get some info from the "new frontier"), just don't make them main factions in the game. And yes, no more new super mutants, yet another "pre-war® FEV research facility", or stupid feral ghouls. I'm fine if there are some old ghouls and mutants to talk/trade with.

    But about the title of this thread, return to the West Coast? HELL NO if Bethesda is still going to make the game.
     
  10. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    I hope Bethesda stays away from the West Coast. That seems like a blasphemy.

    Let Bethesda stay on the East Coast.
     
  11. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    :o
    That was in my Fallout game idea too.
     
  12. Risewild

    Risewild Carbon Dated and Proud
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    Don't worry, mature is Bethesda's middle name:
    NCR is destroyed by the aliens that live in their city under the mojave.
    They will come from Mothership Zeta, there were many frozen there, together with samurai, cowboys, US soldiers, little girls, raiders and whatever else they have there also alien abominations and alien drones.

    Why will Bethesda use so many aliens? Because people are into space stuff now... Stellaris, No Man's Sky, Civ Beyond Earth, whatever other space games are currently or were popular in the last few years. Also we will have the choice to build our own alien city and populate the moon too.

    Ok, enough joking around.
    I think the NCR's end is overdue. I don't know what could destroy it in a believable way. Maybe the pre-war tech NCR relies start to actually fail without any chance of repair or replace it. That could be a nice blow to NCR, then the lack of resources would create difficulties and there would be riots and stuff... This is starting to sound like the pre-war USA...
    Oh well, I don't know how it could be destroyed. But I would like to see NCR shrink and be just a union of just a couple or maybe three towns/cities and stop being so big.
     
  13. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Legion victory, starvation and Kimball's incompetence and hamfisted attempt at a dictatorship after a failed coup.
     
  14. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    Weirdly, I think the best ending would be the NCR Victory.

    NCR annexes the Mojave and immediately suffers civil unrest from the glut of New Citizens and the fact they weren't actually given a choice for annexation. Unable to get the food situation under control, there are riots in the street fostered by the Followers of the Apocalypse who resent NCR's controlling heavy-handed ways.

    Vault City and then the Boneyard both secede from NCR and this results in a Civil War.

    Which, of course, turns nuclear.
     
  15. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    None of them have Nuclear weapons.
     
  16. CaptJ

    CaptJ The Rival of Roquefort Hall

    587
    Jan 19, 2016
    Maybe we should tell Bethesda that.

    I rather they finish the real Fallout 3. I really not see a point of another Fallout title. Either way I don't really want to see more of the NCR or the BoS. Those factions have been too fleshed out already.

    I imagine the Legion being the one that splits apart.

    Two games talking about the NCR's downfall might feel redundant.
     
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  17. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    Not that hard to scavenge them, though, or construct them with their level of technology.
     
  18. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Hmm, while I still think that's doubtful I can see the possibility of that.
     
  19. Izak

    Izak I Shot The ALBATROSS

    Jan 29, 2016
    I'd rather the NCR rapidly decline then spontaneously combust. Maybe have a game in Seattle where we hear of NCR migrants fleeing a famine, or an encroaching revitalized Legion under Caesar's non-Lanius successor.
    You can't just scavenge Nuclear weapons, they kind of used them already (the ones at Hopeville are an exception). The NCR also isn't really at the nuclear level, as of New Vegas.
     
  20. CaptJ

    CaptJ The Rival of Roquefort Hall

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    Jan 19, 2016
    Gotta let people know that this is going to last more than a month after the war.