The world of Fallout: New Vegas makes sense

Discussion in 'Fallout: New Vegas Discussion' started by Twicklerm, Oct 17, 2016.

  1. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    No problem for me, both have some things that need to be ignored.
     
  2. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    That's already happened though. I believe they called it "Fallout 4".
     
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  3. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Ignore that too.
     
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  4. Greed

    Greed Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    318
    Nov 4, 2016
    What about Tactics and its BoS?
     
  5. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    It can't be cannon as they claim that the BOS originates from a vault.
     
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  6. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    As it's being narrated by a BOS member... couldn't they lie and claim legitimacy that way?
     
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  7. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    I am pretty much talked out, it is clear that some people here just want either parts of its lore to be ignored or the franchise be reset/rebooted because the BOS is on its way out.
    The Brotherhood is not an intricate part of the Fallout franchise, they were just one of the many faces that existed in this world.

    I like them but I don't think they are necessary for every Fallout title, especially when they stand in the way of the creation of new ideas. (I still want to introduce the idea of the Followers of the ATLANTIS, post humanist para military cyborg traders who follow the leadership of an Artificial Intelligence and want to usher in a new era of science and technology)

    I wouldn't worry about the BOS disappearing though. It is pretty much guaranteed that they will appear again in Fallout 5, probably having even more military resources and assets.
    For one because Bethesda basically seems them as the Space Marines of the Fallout universe, forever fighting Super Mutants.
     
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  8. Greed

    Greed Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    318
    Nov 4, 2016
    Its directly mentioned in Fo3 and 4, and indirectly mentioned in NV, and IIRC, even someone at Obsidian directly confirmed they considered it canon.

    Obviously the "BoS is from a Vault" thing isn't canon, but Tactics happened.
     
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  9. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    I just hate how the BOS were relegated from an important role to basically not existing in Fallout 2, without actually seeing it happen. It felt so disjointed, and the explanation of 'oh they're just isolationists' doesn't make sense because they traded with others in the first game and have fought both raiders and super mutants.
     
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  10. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Fo3 and fo4 shouldn't be considered Canon in my eyes. And why do I care what some guy at obsidian thinks? And Caesar's comment doesn't confirm tactics it merely confirms a Midwestern BOS.
     
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  11. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Again, remember they could be lying about their origins. It sure makes them look like humanity's hope and destiny if they're from a vault.
     
  12. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Why? How does being from a vault make you look better? Know who else is from a vault? Jackals, Vipers, and Khans. Ceasar's legion was intended to be from a vault in van buren iirc.
     
  13. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    It doesn't if you look at it twice. But...
    a) Vault Dwellers were constantly referred to as the US's future, rebuilding the nation when they would come out.
    b) It gives them technological edge.
    c) It means they're pure and usually more intelligent then the average tribal.
     
  14. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    1. How does that matter 200 years later?
    2. So? How does that make them look better?
    3. Pure? Irrelevant when everyone else isn't. Tribals don't really seem to be a thing anymore.
     
  15. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Oh god, you actually think I buy it? Also, tribals were in Tactics which is what I'm referring to.
     
  16. Greed

    Greed Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    318
    Nov 4, 2016
    The only thing I can think of too explain it is that them basically exiling nearly all the progressives to go into the Midwest to fight super mutants in Tactics allowed the remainder to effectively take over and pull a 180 on their policies between Fallout 1 and 2.
     
  17. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Yeah maybe, though that means the leadership of the BOS was isolationist which... it wasn't? Rombus led a campaign to wipe out the Vipers.
     
  18. Greed

    Greed Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    318
    Nov 4, 2016
    They would have exiled the progressive elders to "lead" the paladin and what not on their journey east.
     
  19. naossano

    naossano So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 19, 2006
    They were optionnally importants. Also, the game is set in another area. Imo the problem is that we see too many of them. Most of their outpost are totally useless. Better only have the one at SF.
     
  20. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Their outposts are useless AND we barely see any proper BOS member.