Honkus said:Or not?
Way back then i bought and played Fallout and Fallout 2(german)
Is downloading/installing/playing the english game legal?
Actually my first post...
German law applies btw.
Per said:Let's assume this thread is about legally downloading the game with blood and running it in a country that fears and despises blood.
thegaresexperience said:Per said:Let's assume this thread is about legally downloading the game with blood and running it in a country that fears and despises blood.
That always cracked me up about Germany (and other European countries) they have some of the bloodiest history, yet they ban violent games, as if it makes up for it
but anyway, if you can buy them from GOG or buy the US versions off Amazon. GOG is the easiest way, since they are already updated and you just have to download them.
Crni Vuk said:And one thing cencorship does NOT happen with violant games. You can sell even a uncencored violant game here, its just that you hvae to face restrictions. For example no advertisting in the public, no public display etc. as long the game has no rating like 14+, 16+ or adult only etc.
The only thing our autorities really freak out is when you start to come up with nazi crap. But thats understandable. If you see the history around it here ...
When itcomes to games at the moment we are better then the US because here no heads explode when kidz see some tits in their games.
Now, letz not open that can of worms. I mean I dont agree completely with it either particularly as its more about rather cosmetics then anything, like WW2 simulations like IL Sturmovik had to remove the swastikas from the German planes, even though they have been there historicaly. That this is a bit of a nonsense really I can agree with.Little Robot said:I don't really see the problem with having Nazis in games. I mean, I understand that it would be bad for a game to portray Nazism in a good light or something, but complete censorship? Completely eradicating mention of it doesn't seem like a good way to teach people to avoid it.
I havnt seen any. BUT I dont know if Vegas got any rating or if it had any rating at all. So I cant tell you anything about it.Little Robot said:So there is no advertising for Fallout New Vegas, for example, allowed at all? That seems a little harsh-- is there advertisement for movies with violence allowed?
Crni Vuk said:Now, letz not open that can of worms. I mean I dont agree completely with it either particularly as its more about rather cosmetics then anything, like WW2 simulations like IL Sturmovik had to remove the swastikas from the German planes, even though they have been there historicaly. That this is a bit of a nonsense really I can agree with.Little Robot said:I don't really see the problem with having Nazis in games. I mean, I understand that it would be bad for a game to portray Nazism in a good light or something, but complete censorship? Completely eradicating mention of it doesn't seem like a good way to teach people to avoid it.
But letz not discuss anything beside that like games which would for example glorify the nazi regime. That those cant be sold in the land which had the nazi regime goes without saying. And should be a no brainer really
Crni Vuk said:Now, letz not open that can of worms. I mean I dont agree completely with it either particularly as its more about rather cosmetics then anything, like WW2 simulations like IL Sturmovik had to remove the swastikas from the German planes, even though they have been there historicaly. That this is a bit of a nonsense really I can agree with.Little Robot said:I don't really see the problem with having Nazis in games. I mean, I understand that it would be bad for a game to portray Nazism in a good light or something, but complete censorship? Completely eradicating mention of it doesn't seem like a good way to teach people to avoid it.
But letz not discuss anything beside that like games which would for example glorify the nazi regime. That those cant be sold in the land which had the nazi regime goes without saying. And should be a no brainer really
I havnt seen any. BUT I dont know if Vegas got any rating or if it had any rating at all. So I cant tell you anything about it.Little Robot said:So there is no advertising for Fallout New Vegas, for example, allowed at all? That seems a little harsh-- is there advertisement for movies with violence allowed?
And yes, movies obviously dont suffer the same stigmatisation like games. But one should not confuse movies with games here. Movies have been around for the past 100 years (or so) and they had to fight with the movies-make-our-kidz-violant just as like games now. Give it time and people will drop that as well.
But my point was only that we dont have that bad laws right now and there are nations with much worse restrictions like Australia (I think) where games get banned if they contain drugs for example. Well from what I know.
Too late for that.Thomas de Aynesworth said:Now would it be legal if I loaned Honkus Fallout 1 or 2 by giving him access to my GOG.com account?
Requete said:The Austrian wersions are always uncesored. IRC. It's ironic when you think of it.
thegaresexperience said:Requete said:The Austrian wersions are always uncesored. IRC. It's ironic when you think of it.
Not really. Different country different laws/morals regarding violence.