Wasteland 2 Update #37: Map, Beta and Rewards

Looks p.good to me. Though, I am not exactly sure why it is a 3D AND 2D map. Wouldn't one of them be enough?

 

Cool, maybe I'll finally get around to playing it then.

 

More options baby, always a good thing!

 

Well, sometimes one good thing is better than two not so good. Now I'm not saying that the worldmap will turn out shallow- just that more isn't always better. Quality over quantity.

 

Agree that having two types of map at the same time looks weird. Don't want to say it's bad, but it's weird. Especially when:

So 3D map have more advantages compared with 2D one? But actually, I hope inXile did it well and cannot wait to see it in action.

Also pretty happy with Travel Difficulty slider and W1 re-release, especially with Mark Morgan music (I quite sure that it will be not, but having some 8bit piece would be fun).

 

that would be silly. I am pretty sure that the 3D map has no inherent advantages over a 2D one. Like finding Oases which seem to be pretty important only with the 3D map.

 

Love the multiple saves option for W1. There are places where you can ruin a game because of the one save only restriction on the original. For instance if you fall in the Las Vegas sewers you will get washed out into the Colorado River (taking damage the whole time). The game autosaves when you go through the map transition but it is very hard to get out of the river so you can get a situation where the game starts you in the river and you cannot get out before dying no matter how many times you reload.

Also like the paragraphs on screen, even though I still have the book. I do hope they include the fake paragraphs somewhere too. The alien invasion story is pretty funny.

 

Everything looks so good. I think I'm gonna cry happiness tears once I get to play this. T_T

 

Think of the 2D as a kind of automap for the region. The region is represented in 3D for top-down navigation and exploration purposes.

Very similar to Gold Box for example -- just a different exploration perspective (in some cases).

The real added complexity is the fact that you can enter the major locations and explore them in 3D.

Map <--> Top Down Exploration of World <--> 3D Game Levels

 

I think you guys have taken the map thing on the tail. In the original kick-starter page I figured out that the 3D map is actually the MAP. 2D map is similar to the map you get in Fallout when you press TAB. However, it is siad that the 2D map is passed down within rangers. How come it has fog of war if everything that has been explored in the wasteland by other rangers are on the same map? If a map is 100 years old, there should be all sorts of locations, water sources, etc.. marked all over them map and even if it sounds odd, would be upto the PC to uncover them on the 3D map A.K.A game world. Running out of water? Er.. Aren't they Arizonian Desert Rangers? That whole thing sounds like a band of noob infants going about the wastes. I'm not saying we should dream of stupidity like cubed water or camel-turned people but I really expect more form a band of Desert Rangers to NOT to die for a day or two without water and wouldn't make me keep an eye on the water meter like I'm forced to keep my eye on the GPU temp when playing Fallout Tactics..

 

^Thanks for pointing it out mate. I almost missed it. Regarding the map, the one came with Farcry 2 is the one I think the best despite the claims that it is uber stupid. A map shouldn't be an ordinary piece of map. It could be hand drawn. There should be something special about it. I'm playing Krater this week and the graphics the game is utilizing is amazing. I got it off of steam quite a long time ago. While not so-wasteland friendly, the graphics are better than most new isometric games. However, the game feels soul-less as you advance when dungeons become grinding and random encounters become common. There's a lesson to learn here. Using same map more than 2 times for random encounter purpose is devastating. I hope the devs are aware of the Dragon Age 2 distroyer. I'm not the one to talk about Wasteland 2 as I'm a new fan to the series but just though I'd share my word. It would be great to see enemies carrying water. That would reduce the time it would take to get RnR every 20 mins in the game and for me, would add a whole new level in realisam. How are the enemies (raiders, bandits, etc..) going to survive it if they are carrying just a weapon or some minor stuff with no lootable water? In some cases, the oasis you find would be poisoned and you would have the choice to not to drink/refil water from there or drink it while gaining severe poisoning. Don't drink it and die in the wastes or drink it and face severe conditions that would eventually bring death if not cured soon enough.. Whoa! I've spoken too much..

 

Looking good!

I wonder if my wasteland 1 characters will be able to be exported or usable in the wasteland 1 re release.

 

how much time difference is between the games anyway? maybe you can play some really old greezer

 

Sigh, I thought the 2d map could be used exclusively as a means of travel overland, since it looks very cool and I don't like the 3d travelling at all.

 

We have experimented with allowing you to travel on both.

At a minimum, you can decide where to go on the 2D map.

If we have the time to make it more involved, we will. There's a strong contingent of 2D map folks on the team as well.

I also think the map section of the game will be something people will mod extensively early on.

 

That's nice to hear, I've also read your posts and your enthusiasm about that cartographer/map maker site and am glad you think the same about beautifully crafted 2d maps!