What Will Fallout 76's Failures Mean for Fallout 5?

Discussion in 'Fallout 76' started by Reverie, Jan 30, 2019.

  1. Vegeir

    Vegeir First time out of the vault

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    Jul 2, 2003
    I really don't want any Fallout game made by Bethesda to touch the West Coast. Years ago I had hopes they would let Obsidian make games set in the west, while Bethesda handles the east, but sadly that didn't happen.

    Don't remember where I read it, and don't know if this is debunked or common knowledge or whatever, but someone with apparent insider info said that Bethesda has some kind of a petty hatred for New Vegas and the fact that many players, especially fans of the original Fallouts, consider NV to be far superior to both Fallout 3 and 4. So they will never let anyone else, especially Obsidian, to do another NV-like game again.
     
  2. KingArthur

    KingArthur My Name Is Actually Arthur

    Jun 25, 2018
    I’m hoping that Beth will learn, or else not create 5 at all, and let the series die. But let’s be honest, that’s unlikely. Chances are it’ll be a 4 clone, or an ES6 with guns, similar to how 4 was basically Skyrim with guns.
     
  3. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Half-way Through My Half-life

    Nov 26, 2007
    Bethesda learns plenty with each release, of theirs, and of their partner/competitor's products.

    Unfortunately for us they study a different audience than us [IE not the fans of the series]—and they don't give a damn about Fallout except in the ways they can dress up their TES template with the IP assets.

    What they learn will never result in a better Fallout game; merely a more marketable one... for that is all that it is to them; a product skin for TES.
     
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  4. Octavian

    Octavian It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jun 16, 2018
    I’ve heard similar things but I find it hard to believe. If Bethesda actually takes enough pride in their games to hate the fact that someone else showed them up, they would probably make better fucking games.

    Bethesda are incompetent and greedy but I don’t think they’re actually invested enough in the creative process to be that petty.
     
  5. Eshanas

    Eshanas A Smooth-Skin

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    Jul 6, 2016
    They point at F3's GOTY and F4's sales charts and say 'we got something. NV didn't even sell 7 odd mil copies. Pass! We're the best! Na-na-na-na!"
     
  6. LovinglyGaslight

    LovinglyGaslight First time out of the vault

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    Apr 7, 2019
    I hope it goes back to a grimmer looking tone. Appalachia and The Commonwealth were too bright for the series. Too many trees, too many mostly-intact buildings.
     
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  7. KingArthur

    KingArthur My Name Is Actually Arthur

    Jun 25, 2018
    In a way, the series are distinct for that reason. NV was more like “classic” Fallout, while still being brighter than the originals. Beth Fallout, all the way back to 3, relies on repopulating mostly intact buildings and has that brighter feel, spiritually (3) if not physically (4 and 70shit).
     
  8. LovinglyGaslight

    LovinglyGaslight First time out of the vault

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    Apr 7, 2019
    I guess thats true, but even if it wasnt straight up dark af, Fallout 3 was still closer to a darker tone than 4 or 76. They've been getting just progressively more upbeat tonally, and progressively more colourful and saturated visually and I dont think either of those are what Fallout should be about.
     
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  9. KingArthur

    KingArthur My Name Is Actually Arthur

    Jun 25, 2018
    You're gonna fit in well here.
     
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  10. Rose

    Rose Bring me to life

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    Dec 5, 2018
    I agree! It's a nuclear wasteland and should look grim. I'm okay with a little color, but FO4 and 76 waaaaaaay overdid it.
     
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  11. Eshanas

    Eshanas A Smooth-Skin

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    Jul 6, 2016
    The nuclear wastelands we have, such as Pripyat, are vibrant green choking forests. I got nothing against seeing Green or color in Fallout. It's their stupid plots that grate me the most.
     
  12. Sublime

    Sublime It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jun 5, 2018
    I honestly believe that the flora would be ok in a game set 210+ years after the war, less It was in the desert
     
  13. The Doctor

    The Doctor Veteran of The Divide

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    Jun 6, 2015
    Fallout: Hawaii better let us finally fight monsters from the deep

    The Red Death in Far Harbor wasn't enough - all it did was make me eager for more
     
  14. youlstn

    youlstn First time out of the vault

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    Oct 16, 2015
    From Bethesda's perspective the failures are probably seen as the things that make this game unlike their previous games. (Lack of the expected quests & npcs; microtransactions; and too many bugs...even for them) And while there is a market for multiplayer Fallout, their seemed to be plenty of people who didn't want that. So that would lead to the idea that if they just make their next game a single-player game, then everything will be fine. But that next game is Starfield, because to them they are all basically the same game series...



    So the general nature of Fallout 5 will probably be more heavily influenced by Starfield and TES 6 than Fallout 76, but who knows.

    I wonder if we will see world sizes go back to Fallout 4 / Skyrim size, or if the map size of Fallout 76 is the new normal. I don't know if the map size of Fallout 76 is seen as too empty, which might lead to scaling back in future games; or if in using geo data they discovered an easy way to make huge maps.
     
  15. Richard34

    Richard34 First time out of the vault

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    Sep 12, 2018


    Maybe its a good thing if Bethesda doesn't make it?! OF COURSE IT'S A GOOD THING, we already have seen what a mess was Fallout 4 and a little bit the little mess Fallout 3 was, why do you think they would do it right this time?
     
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  16. Norzan

    Norzan Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 7, 2017
    Bethesda Fallouts are absolutely terrible, so how they are gonna wash away the taste of Fallout 76? If anything, another one made by them will just make things worse.
     
  17. Octavian

    Octavian It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jun 16, 2018
    Hopefully with acid
     
  18. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Half-way Through My Half-life

    Nov 26, 2007
     
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  19. das-brut'el-dood

    das-brut'el-dood First time out of the vault

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    Feb 10, 2019
    I would be interested as long as it's similar to The outer world without the rick n mortyness of it (haven't played tOW yet becaus eof it, but watched reviews)
     
  20. AgentBJ09

    AgentBJ09 Vault Dweller

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    Jul 9, 2015
    I would reply with, "What reason would they have to make a new single-player title if the multiplayer game is bringing in more money with less effort?"

    Hell, we haven't seen anything for TES VI outside of that one flyover trailer with the title.