When you call someone a Neanderthal...

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by The Vault Dweller, May 7, 2010.

  1. The Vault Dweller

    The Vault Dweller always looking for water.

    Aug 24, 2004
    ...it may not be a simple insult, but the truth:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8660940.stm

    Sincerely,
    The Vault Dweller
     
  2. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    hmm, thats interesting. Though I ask my self from where it comes. I mean I always thought Neanthertals and Cromagnon Humans didnt mixed. But well.
     
  3. Professor Danger!

    Professor Danger! Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Aug 30, 2009
    I remember learning this in an Anatomy & Physiology class I had to take at University. Something about their DNA being different from the rest, I think. Regardless, very interesting stuff.
     
  4. aenemic

    aenemic Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jun 4, 2008
    I've been called a caveman on several occasions. wouldn't surprise me if I am one.
     
  5. Loxley

    Loxley Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    911
    Apr 11, 2003
    That explains the abundance of bodyhair.
     
  6. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    beeing a caveman isnt even that bad if you consider that they usualy would travel around 40km on average every day to get their food. How much is the typical MCDonalds loving american moving around on average today :crazy: ~ just joking, you know I love yah all you yanks!



     
  7. Shoveler

    Shoveler Still Mildly Glowing

    214
    Nov 8, 2007
    Doesn't surprise me at all, probably banging pretty much whatever moved back then. Kinda like now heh.
     
  8. Member of Khans

    Member of Khans Vault Dweller

    750
    Aug 26, 2004
  9. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    No why? The Cromagnon had pretty much the same size and thus same level of inteligence like the humans today (so they believe).
     
  10. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    Was this not the plot of The Clan of the Cave Bear?
     
  11. Blakut

    Blakut Vault Senior Citizen

    Jan 9, 2008
    As far as i know Neanderthals had a bigger brain than Homo Sapiens. Thus they could've been smarter today, if they lived and evolved.
     
  12. Ravager69

    Ravager69 Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 21, 2007
    Since they didn't, I'd guess they weren't that smart.
     
  13. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    Because intelligence is a marker of evolutionary strength? Not really.

    They did have bigger brains and the inter-breeding is sometimes theorized to have been one of the causes of our own water-swollen heads. Whether or not they were actually smarter is another question, since brain size and intelligence don't correspond that directly.
     
  14. Blakut

    Blakut Vault Senior Citizen

    Jan 9, 2008
    They died because homo sapiens might have been more aggresive and violent. The guy with the biggest stick wins. Screw your pottery and potter's wheel, we've got sharp sticks!
     
  15. victor

    victor Antediluvian as Feck
    Orderite

    Dec 12, 2003
    By the time where you have pottery and especially potter's wheels, you've developed agriculture, husbandry and advanced sedentary societies. You would easily eradicate any and all other groups living like nomads with weapons technology and disease. Haven't you played civilization?

    It's not the most violent that wins.
     
  16. Ravager69

    Ravager69 Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 21, 2007
    Being smart = finding a way not to get killed or how to kill opponents more efficiently. Also, weren't they bigger than homo sapiens?

    BTW doesn't intelligence determine how fast you can learn and adapt? Furthermore, does it really boil down to higher functions only or isn't the ability to survive also a sign of intelligence?

    Just a brain-storm over here.
     
  17. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Admin

    May 27, 2004
    The Mongols would like to have a word with you after they're done raping half of Asia and half of Europe.

    Yeah, those settled societies did really good against nomadish tribes. :)
     
  18. Not Lost Hope

    Not Lost Hope First time out of the vault

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    Mar 26, 2010
    It's funny that us whites have thought for long that africans are lesser humans when they in fact are more pure homo sapiens not having bred with neanderthals.
     
  19. victor

    victor Antediluvian as Feck
    Orderite

    Dec 12, 2003

    Don't confuse nomadism with agriculture/animal husbandry. I was referring to the switch to sedentarism of early civilizations, not medieval empires. Especially not medieval empires that ,partially through trading, had access to advanced military technology and immunity to diseases.
     
  20. Blakut

    Blakut Vault Senior Citizen

    Jan 9, 2008