Crni Vuk - here is a question. You have a city in a war zone full of civilians in the outskirts of Europe. The forces around these forces may very well kill said civilians unless there is a intervention. What nation in Europe (as a individual or as a group) can project enough force to prevent this from happening? Not one. And the reasons for this is not for a lack of manpower or a lack of technology or manufacturing. It is just that Europe refuses to spend the resources to have enough of a military to do so. And before you said "That won't happen" there is 8,000 men and boys who would disagree, except they are dead. And this year you had almost the same thing happen except that European nations talked the US (who spends tons of money on defense) to prevent mass killings in North Africa, well within flight range of Europe. This is not referring to adventures in Iraq or Afghanistan, but basic security.