Would you like to see Obsidian make an Arcanum game?

Arcanum Made by Obsidian. Yes or No?

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It seems someone made a petition to ask Activision to allow Obsidian to make an Arcanum* game.
Since I have seen a few Arcanum fans around here, I decided to make this thread to share the link to that petition (although I will be honest, I rarely think petitions like this can work, and this one is not an exception).

https://www.change.org/p/petition-to-lease-the-arcanum-ip-to-obsidian-entertainment

But this isn't only to share that petition. This thread is also for people to debate how and/or why they want or not an Arcanum game made by Obsidian or even any other studio (please name the studio in a post).

*When I say Arcanum, I mean the Troika Games' "Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura". This seems obvious, but I am putting this note here just in case.

You can get this game from:
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Steam
Amazon (hardcopy)
 
Why are we allowed 2 options in the poll, given that most of them directly contradict each other?

Like if I vote "Shut up and take my money" and "Eww no" you have no idea which one I've actually chosen.

Also, IMO most of the fun of Arcanum comes from the build up and conclusion of finding Kerghan, the IMO best video game villain of all time. While they could replicate the choices and intricate NPC system of Arcanum, that's an aspect I can't see being done more than once in an Arcanum game.
 
I remember most Troika members are already with Obsidian now, so what's the reason not to?
 
Jogre said:
Why are we allowed 2 options in the poll, given that most of them directly contradict each other?

Like if I vote "Shut up and take my money" and "Eww no" you have no idea which one I've actually chosen.

Also, IMO most of the fun of Arcanum comes from the build up and conclusion of finding Kerghan, the IMO best video game villain of all time. While they could replicate the choices and intricate NPC system of Arcanum, that's an aspect I can't see being done more than once in an Arcanum game.
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Because I believe most members here will not be trolling in a poll :lmao:. Also because people might vote for one option and also vote for the "How about if *insert other studio name here* makes it?".

For example:
"Eww. No way!" and "How about if *insert other studio name here* makes it?", or, "Maybe. I'm undecided." and "How about if *insert other studio name here* makes it?", etc.

After all, if you don't want to use both options, you don't have to.
 
Jogre said:
Also, IMO most of the fun of Arcanum comes from the build up and conclusion of finding Kerghan, the IMO best video game villain of all time. While they could replicate the choices and intricate NPC system of Arcanum, that's an aspect I can't see being done more than once in an Arcanum game.
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This.

Having finished it once, I conclude that there's just no way for a sequel to be made. The story is pretty conclusive and satisfactory. However, if it's a game with all the best of Arcanum's mechanics, with all the bad removed or fixed, and overall an improvement to the system, AND taking place in Arcanum setting, then fuck yes. Bring it on, Cain!
 
Black Angel said:
This.

Having finished it once, I conclude that there's just no way for a sequel to be made. The story is pretty conclusive and satisfactory. However, if it's a game with all the best of Arcanum's mechanics, with all the bad removed or fixed, and overall an improvement to the system, AND taking place in Arcanum setting, then fuck yes. Bring it on, Cain!
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That is why I didn't made this thread about making a sequel, but making an Arcanum game :mrgreen:.
 
I haven't even properly played the game but I'm going to say no. It's too close to fantasy for my liking. They made Pillars, followed it up with Tyranny and then they're making Pillars 2 and some other project I dunno if they've announced yet and those three are all fantasy oriented.

So no.

I want anything but fantasy oriented stuff.
 
Mr Fish said:
I haven't even properly played the game but I'm going to say no. It's too close to fantasy for my liking.
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Objectively, the game is more 50/50 because the themes is heavily magick vs. technology. Iirc Shadowrun takes place somewhere in the future where orcs and such other races somehow made a comeback, while Arcanum takes place more like in Victorian-era or something like that.

But hey, if 50% fantasy is still too much for your liking.... well.... shame. This is Cain's baby right after Fallout 1 and better in nearly every way, except when it comes to the matter of taste for the genre and the setting (Post-Apocalyptic vs. Fantasy-Steampunk).
 
I feel like Troika did a good job at making Arcanum fully standalone. I don't really need a sequel or reboot in the same universe. If it's not Troika making it, why not just making a game with a similar background instead of trying to use Arcanum?
 
Black Angel said:
Objectively, the game is more 50/50 because the themes is heavily magick vs. technology. Iirc Shadowrun takes place somewhere in the future where orcs and such other races somehow made a comeback, while Arcanum takes place more like in Victorian-era or something like that.

But hey, if 50% fantasy is still too much for your liking.... well.... shame. This is Cain's baby right after Fallout 1 and better in nearly every way, except when it comes to the matter of taste for the genre and the setting (Post-Apocalyptic vs. Fantasy-Steampunk).
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Yup, just a matter of taste.
The question was if we would like to see Obsidian spend time on working on yet another fantasy oriented game and me? I don't. I want to see them do some other setting than fantasy. (like a VTM game)
 
Well, a game based in the Arcanum setting rather than a full sequel (seeing how Arcanum's ending was rather conclusive) would be great.

Maybe it could be set during the ages before to the one in the game (like when Vendigroth was a normal advanced civilization and not a wasteland) to avoid needing to pick a set ending for Arcanum. Or they could pick a set ending like Fallout.

Mr Fish said:
The question was if we would like to see Obsidian spend time on working on yet another fantasy oriented game and me? I don't. I want to see them do some other setting than fantasy. (like a VTM game)
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It would be pretty swell if Tim Cain's secret project turns out to be a modern or sci-fi RPG though that seems like wishful thinking on my part.
 
I hate Arcanum. Terrible interface and gameplay prevented me from seeing anything more of the game that didn't just look like Steam Tolkien with Star Wars references.
 
A Fallout fan talking shit about Arcanum UI, what a hypocrite.
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NO, Arcanum UI is a step above. Inventory now uses all of the available screen space, all of the skills and attributes laid out and I don't remember quick access slots until a mod made it happen.

To the topic - a sequel, no. A game set in Arcanum universe - shut up and take my money!
 
The UI is confusing and Clunky and you basically get no explanation on anything at all. Fallout UI is clunky but at least is straight forward.
Gameplay is still pretty bad. That's something even Arcanum fans agree on.
 
Walpknut said:
The UI is confusing and Clunky and you basically get no explanation on anything at all. Fallout UI is clunky but at least is straight forward.
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Aside from badly scaled when using older versions of Hi-Res Patch (newest version, which is Hi-Res Patch ver. 1.5 is fucking dope, although unfortunately I can't use it with my rig because loading time is fucked and it's stuttering most of the time), I don't see how the UI is confusing and 'clunky'. Most of the time the box that's supposed to show a character's level, HP, and FT would get messy as you move your cursor around, and yeah the loss of the box to describe some feedback like how much damage is dealt/taken and if an attack is a hit or miss was disappointing, but other than that the UI isn't confusing, nor clunky, and it's just as straightforward as Fallout's.

Walpknut said:
Gameplay is still pretty bad. That's something even Arcanum fans agree on.
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Well, if a new game being made using the setting, AND fixing all of its problems like using a singular combat mechanic (for example, ONLY Turn-Based, instead of a combination of TB-FastTB-RT), then I say why not?

CerberusGate said:
Maybe it could be set during the ages before to the one in the game (like when Vendigroth was a normal advanced civilization and not a wasteland) to avoid needing to pick a set ending for Arcanum. Or they could pick a set ending like Fallout.
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Hell, setting the ages long after the one in the game is still viable, because in one of the endings, Arronax returned to Arcanum, give proper burial for his father Nasrudin, and raised Vendigroth from the underground ruins it was and return it to its former glory (and even better, now that Arronax used his powers in conjunction to the city's advanced technology). There's so many possibility for a new game in the setting of Arcanum, for example, I'd love to see the game's setting advanced long centuries ahead of the time of the Living One, since it's obvious that technology is winning the 'battle' since the mages are retreating into Tulla and Caladon joined the Unified Kingdom so technology is even more widespread than ever.
 
Mr Fish said:
I haven't even properly played the game but I'm going to say no. It's too close to fantasy for my liking. They made Pillars, followed it up with Tyranny and then they're making Pillars 2 and some other project I dunno if they've announced yet and those three are all fantasy oriented.

So no.

I want anything but fantasy oriented stuff.
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Obsidian should be who White Wolf hires to make Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines 2.

Double irony points for that.
 
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