Black Lives Matter

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Mr Fish, Sep 23, 2016.

  1. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    Nah, all the Jewish girls I dated growing up gave great head, and their moms made me some bangin' matzo ball soup. No complaints there my friend. So, I reject your premise as wildly, irresponsibly presumptuous and I think you have some unresolved issues and prejudices about Americans, and you're not too subtle about it either. I'm Japanese by marriage dude, which makes my kids bi-racial. If I were a what you presume I am, I'm doing a real shitty job of it.

    Besides which, I'm adopted. I don't even know what racial prejudices I'm obligated to get hung up on.
     
  2. My grandpa wasn't let in buses for being a very tan Mexican. My uncles get bossed around by North Americans even if they are fairly wealthier than them just for being Mexican. My father is a CS employee in a big name company and is lessened by customers.

    But dunno, we aren't crazy for that. That's how humans work, and hopefully someday sometime this crap could be left behind.

    In Spain, my generation was raised along a lot of immigrant kids, a wile lot of Muslim kids. Hell, 40% my class wasn't Spanish for the longest time. There's that guy here and there that wouldn't accept help from a Muslim even if he was in a fire, ofc.
    I see less of them with a relatively calmer Middle East and the fancy new 4m~ electrified fence, though.

    To make races cohabit fine is it required for one to almost erase the other and then the latter doing the same back, then waiting for five centuries? Sounds like a plan ^^
     
  3. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I think humanity will have to deal with prejudice well, like for ever, it's simply a natural part of human behaviour.
     
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  4. welsh

    welsh Junkmaster

    Apr 5, 2003
    Hey Crni- I am not sure. For example, I dig hot chicks. My prejudice is hottiness. If she's hot, I am interested. Don't get me wrong, I am near 50 now, married to a beautiful woman, and I don't cheat, but a hot chick will get me thinking. And I don't give a shit of she's black, white, indian, asian. Smoking hot has no racial tint. And she doesn't have to be smokin physically. She can be really awesome badass cool, and so what if she carries extra poundage. I don't care. Hot is hot. I am prejudiced? Yes. A sexist- yes- I like strong powerful women who are confident and capable- real equals. I like a woman who I can trust to be a capable partner and who can push me to be a better man. That's part of hottness.

    Prejudice isn't natural. Rather, its a consequence of fear and fear is a reflection of a lack of confidence and courage. Curiousity is as primal as fear. If it weren't we'd still be living in the fucking caves.

    We learn prejudice, we create it. We choose to live with prejudice. And we do so because, often, someone teaches us to be prejudiced. And that sucks.

    But if that's true, and I think it is, than its kind of cool too. Because if prejudice ie learned, acquired, indoctrinated into us, than we can learn, acquired and indoctrinate ourselves into a mindset of tolerance, curiousity and empowerment. If you want to, you don't have to live by prejudice, even if sometimes people will treat you with it.

    The real question, brother, is who wants you to act with prejudice against your fellow man? Why might someone want you to live with fear or hatred of someone, to cultivate intolerance of another, simply because they are different, when you know, in your heart, that such intolerance is a sub-optimal response to difference? Who benefits from dividing us through intolerance? For those who do are echoing what David Hume (in his critique ofthe social contract) warns us about in discussing the nature of despots. It is directly in contrast of what classic liberalism (in the Lockean ideal) and thus liberal democracy is all about.

    Let me lay an idea on you that I got from David Ignatiev in his dicussion about the violence and intolerance found in the Balkans back in the 1990s. "Intolerance is a form of divided consciousness in which abstract, conceptual, ideological hatred vanquishes concrete, real, and individual moments of identification…. To the degree that individuals can ever learn to think for themselves- and so become true individuals- they can free themselves, one by one, from the deadly dynamic of the narcissism of minor differences. In that sense, the function of liberal society is not merely to teach the noble fiction of human universality, but to create individuals, sufficiently robust in their own identity, to live by that fiction."

    My advice, be fearful of those who spread prejudice and so would enslave you with your own fear and hatred.
     
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  5. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010

    That's a pretty powerful quote. Would like to read the original text. Can you share a link or something? Here or pm, doesn't matter.


    On the other hand, nice post. I believe that people are capable to shed off prejudice for good. But I just don't think that will ever happen.
     
  6. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    Besides being anti-black and anti-gay? Not surprising that a yank would be ok with Jews, Zionism is basically 'state religion' of USA. You're probably also anti-Native/Indigenous American. I mean, how could you live on their lands if you weren't ok with their genocide.
     
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  7. CaptJ

    CaptJ The Rival of Roquefort Hall

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    Jan 19, 2016
    What so bad about Jews? Or is nearly getting genocided not enough of a hardship?
     
  8. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    Well since this thread seems to be about anything and everything already so I'll answer. I mentioned Zionism and that is the thing that I have a problem with. Zionists didn't have a problem with the genocide of Jews living outside Palestine during World War 2, on the contrary, it was the answer to their dreams. As a result of World War 2 Jewish people started to stream into Palestine and they got their 'promised holy land' with diplomatic pressure from their friend USA.

    Another incident that was very beneficial for Zionists was the collapse of the Soviet Union that led to another 'exodus' of Jews looking for better living from post-Soviet areas. Nowadays this folks have started to return back to where they came from due to better economic conditions in post-Soviet areas.
     
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  9. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    I don't really need to point out the irony here, do I?
     
  10. CaptJ

    CaptJ The Rival of Roquefort Hall

    587
    Jan 19, 2016
    @MutantScalper
    Now you just sound like those Neo-Nazis claiming everything is an evil plot by the Jews.
     
  11. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    Go ahead.

    Why? Look at some of the talking points of the neo-nazis and Zionists and show me the differences, please?
     
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  12. CaptJ

    CaptJ The Rival of Roquefort Hall

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    Jan 19, 2016
    In most countries, Jews are alienated so they can't assimilate or preserve their culture without a homeland. Nazis present themselves as the Master Race.
     
  13. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    Zionists claim to be the "chosen people" and consider other ethnicities and religions to be beneath them. That's a pretty big similarity to neo-nazis right there.

    Much of the problems Jewish people have in the world are due to the policies of Israel, which isn't making life easier for Jews who want to live outside Israel. Zionists are actively trying to get Jewish people to move to Israel so they'd have more cannon fodder for their 'holy land' - project.
     
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  14. CaptJ

    CaptJ The Rival of Roquefort Hall

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    Jan 19, 2016
    I didn't know Israel existed before WW2. That or the crystal ball that existed Europe predicted the founding of Israel.

    They are full of it but there are crazies in every race. So Black people being assholes is somehow better than White or Jewish people being assholes?
     
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  15. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    Zionism existed way before WW 2. Interesting though how quickly after WW 2 Israel was founded though.

    I don't think for example Roma have an air force they are using to actively bomb folks.
     
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  16. CaptJ

    CaptJ The Rival of Roquefort Hall

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    Jan 19, 2016
    @MutantScalper
    You said Israel was the source of the Jewish people's problem. I didn't make that claim you did. Honestly, Muslims had always hated the Jews so of course there would be wars.
     
  17. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    Proof? Before Israel there were Jewish people living all over the Muslim world. There still are btw.
     
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  18. CaptJ

    CaptJ The Rival of Roquefort Hall

    587
    Jan 19, 2016
    The Crusades? The Jews hated by both the Muslims and the Christians. Thing is that they were too small in number to be threat being a non-Missionary religion.
     
  19. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    There's some historical animosity between Jewish and other religions but also a lot of peaceful co-existance. Hate seems to dominate your mind.
     
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  20. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    BINGO.

    Not saying BLM are actively thinking this or supporting it but this IS the image Joe Public is getting from them.