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Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by cronicler, Nov 29, 2014.
Ok, so that's one. Any others? I'm drawing a blank.
No, I know that, but because in my mind Green Lantern was always black, I wanted to see John Stewart damnit!
Margaret Hamilton with her code, lead software engineer, Project Apollo (1969)
Valentina Tereshkova, first woman in space (1963)
Anna Lee Fisher, first mother in space (1984)
Kay McNulty, Betty Jennings, Betty Snyder, Marlyn Wescoff, Fran Bilas and Ruth Lichterman were six of the original programmers for the ENIAC, the first general purpose electronic computer.
Linda B. Buck is a neurobiologist who was awarded the 2004 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine along with Richard Axel for their work on olfactory receptors.
Biologist and activist Rachel Carson published Silent Spring, a work on the dangers of pesticides, in 1952.
Eugenie Clark, popularly known as The Shark Lady, is an American ichthyologist known for her research on poisonous fish of the tropical seas and on the behavior of sharks.
Ann Druyan is an American writer, lecturer and producer specializing in cosmology and popular science. Druyan has credited her knowledge of science to the 20 years she spent studying with her late husband,Carl Sagan, rather than formal academic training. She was responsible for the selection of music on the Voyager Golden Record for the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 exploratory missions. Druyan also sponsored the Cosmos 1 spacecraft.
Gertrude B. Elion was an American biochemist and pharmacologist, awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1988 for her work on the differences in biochemistry between normal human cells and pathogens.
Sandra Moore Faber, with Robert Jackson, discovered the Faber–Jackson relation between luminosity and stellar dispersion velocity in elliptical galaxies. She also headed the team which discovered the Great Attractor, a large concentration of mass which is pulling a number of nearby galaxies in its direction.
Zoologist Dian Fossey worked with gorillas in Africa from 1967 until her murder in 1985.
Astronomer Andrea Ghez received a MacArthur "genius grant" in 2008 for her work in surmounting the limitations of earthbound telescopes.
Maria Goeppert-Mayer was the second female Nobel Prize winner in Physics, for proposing the nuclear shell model of the atomic nucleus. Earlier in her career, she had worked in unofficial or volunteer positions at the university where her husband was a professor. Goeppert-Mayer is one of several scientists whose works are commemorated by a U.S. postage stamp.
Sulamith Low Goldhaber and her husband Gerson Goldhaber formed a research team on the K meson and other high-energy particles in the 1950s.
Carol Greider and the Australian born Elizabeth Blackburn, along with Jack W. Szostak, received the 2009 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for the discovery of how chromosomes are protected by telomeres and the enzyme telomerase.
Rear Admiral Grace Murray Hopper developed the first computer compiler while working for the Eckert Mauchly Computer Corporation, released in 1952.
Deborah S. Jin's team at JILA, in Boulder, Colorado in 2003 produced the first fermionic condensate, a new state of matter.
Stephanie Kwolek, a researcher at DuPont, invented poly-paraphenylene terephthalamide – better known as Kevlar.
Lynn Margulis is a biologist best known for her work on endosymbiotic theory, which is now generally accepted for how certain organelles were formed.
Barbara McClintock's studies of maize genetics demonstrated genetic transposition in the 1940s and 50s. She dedicated her life to her research, and she was warded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicinein 1983. McClintock is one of several scientists whose works are commemorated by a U.S. postage stamp.
Carolyn Porco is a planetary scientist best known for her work on the Voyager program and the Cassini–Huygens mission to Saturn. She is also known for her popularization of science, in particular space exploration.
Lisa Randall is a theoretical physicist and cosmologist, best known for her work on the Randall–Sundrum model. She was the first tenured female physics professor at Princeton University.
Sally Ride was an astrophysicist and the first American woman, and then-youngest American, to travel to outer space. Ride wrote or co-wrote several books on space aimed at children, with the goal of encouraging them to study science. Ride participated in the Gravity Probe B (GP-B) project, which provided more evidence that the predictions of Einstein's general theory of relativity are correct.
Through her observations of galaxy rotation curves, astronomer Vera Rubin discovered the Galaxy rotation problem, now taken to be one of the key pieces of evidence for the existence of dark matter. She was the first female allowed to observe at the Palomar Observatory.
Sara Seager is a Canadian-American astronomer who is currently a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and known for her work on extrasolar planets.
Astronomer Jill Tarter is director of SETI.
Rosalyn Yalow was the co-winner of the 1977 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine (together with Roger Guillemin and Andrew Schally) for development of the radioimmunoassay (RIA) technique
John Stewart is also a white guy tho
First mother in space? What kind of achievement is that? That's on par with 'first virgin in space' or 'first human with an ingrown toenail in space'. Is that an attempt to add some significance to the fact that there was simply another woman in space? Do we do that with men as well? First father in space, first grandfather in space, first man with a vasectomy in space, ...? No, we don't. A fine example of how a perfectly normal thing needs to be highlighted - just because it's a woman. Wow. I hope she feels really good about herself for having been the first mother in space. It's implying it's a heroic feat, something previously thought impossible: a mother is going to space! Fuck, who would have ever thought? It's like goddamn magic.
This thread sickens me.
But the picture is so nice, you grumpus!
She also won these awards:
National Science Foundation Undergraduate Research Fellowship in 1970, 1971
Graduated from UCLA cum laude and with honors in chemistry.
NASA Space Flight Medal
Lloyd's of London Silver Medal for Meritorious Salvage Operations
Mother of the Year Award, 1984
UCLA Professional Achievement Award
UCLA Medical Professional Achievement Award
NASA Exceptional Service Medal, 1999.
California Science Center Woman of the year, 1986
UCLA Alumni of the Year Award, 2012
Biotruth is a pejorative term used to refer to the concept of explaining social realities with a very poor understanding of biology, usually by reaching far beyond what science understands of biological truths (hence: biotruth). For instance, trying to explain that women shouldn't have the vote because biologically don't have the brains to understand politics (yes, that is a thing that has historically happened). Or saying that women are naturally less interested in money because they evolved to take care of children (something we saw in this thread). Those sorts of explanation can sound very convincing, but they're almost always based on a very poor understanding of biology, social forces and an overreach as to what we actually know of evolutionary forces.
There's a form that's just an open conspiracy theory, peddled by the likes of Glenn Beck -- hence why it uses the oh-so-scary-Marxism-word. There's also the form as used by Akratus in this thread and others in GamerGate, which is less conspiracy theory and more just a misunderstanding of concepts conflated with a misunderstanding of other concepts. The thing that comes to closest to actually resembling the concept as a whole is Critical Theory.
EDIT: If you think being a mother has historically not been an impediment to success outside the home, your historical knowledge is appallingly lacking.
Getting some rads from Sander & Tagz?
According to school there was only one woman in science:
I guess one is better than none.
Guess you're the one with deep understanding in biology then. So explain to us how the 'infamous' graphs with IQ curves/profession distribution are ought to be understand correctly. Because at face value they are pretty self explanatory.
Btw, i never heard explanations for social realities like that. Women were held to be incapable of rational thought way before there were any studies on their brain abilities and women less interested in money? Holy lol. Guess the fact that they like to receive expensive shiny gifts and strive for ritch husbands has skipped your reality radar. In any case, nothing of this has anything to do with biological research, while graphs of averages and peaks of IQ has everything to do with and can't be simply denied unless you're luddite.
That's just exercising in semantics. You can use any other term if this has somehow lost it's 'academic' credibility because of misuse (like ''patriarchy'' or ''toxic'' lel), but from purely plain language point of view it's perfectly valid. It's set of ideas having emergence tied to marxism theories and mainly focus on cultural issues, hence, cultural marxism.
Men were just as impediment to success for the very same reasons in most traditional societies. Because people were basically assigned duties from their birth. Only mass urbanization made way for modern way of free enterprise and mass education. But the point we were arguing here wasn't about ancient history, righ. It's about current situation where mothership is hardly an issue anymore.
See, this is what I mean. You take a few datapoints, connect it to some inherent biological truth with no nuance, and proceed to ignore any other context. With no understanding of the underlying biology or social realities.
Wait, is there a stipulation in NMA's rules somewhere that says "open sexism welcome"? Did we post a sign saying "please explain how you think women are inferior" here?
This is both historically and currently completely bullshit, and it's so far removed from reality that I'm afraid I can't even begin to explain it to you.
More about the stuff that got the previous thread vatted?
Anyway, what do you guys think?:
Good or bad?
Indeed. This is a constant throughout human history and remains applicable.
Well, sometimes physical requirements are needed for a certain job.
On average, women are shorter, lighter and possess less upper body strength than men. A woman needs to train harder and longer to perform the same feat of physical strength as a man, most of the time.
I think most women could beat the fitness test, but it requires a lot more work from them than it does from men.
Lowering the requirements is a bit of a mixed bag. I mean, some of the requirements don't make much sense I guess, but some do. Lowering those compromises a person's ability to do the job.
Sure, it would make it more fair for women, as they wouldn't have to train as hard as before, but I'm not sure if it's good for the performance on the job.
So no, I don't think it's good to lower the requirements. It's a tough job, and firefighters are there to save lifes. If a person can't perform a task, that person should not be on duty.
Sadly, nature is sexist in that regard. Testosterone is powerful.
Maybe they should offer dedicated strength training cmaps and sessions for women aspiring to be firefighters, as strength training doesn't seem to be very popular amongst women.
You know what else has been an impediment to success outside the home? Blindness, Down syndrome, agoraphobia, lepra, poverty ... The list is endless. However, I never hear anyone say things like 'Why can't the next president be a mongoloid?' There's a list that goes on forever with traits that are an impediment to success. Having too much grey hair or being bold can be an impediment to success. Focussing solely on women and people with a different skin colour is naive.
Sucks for you, Sander, but Gnidrologist DOES make a point - historically. Calling it bullshit will not mask your lack of knowledge. People were assigned duties from birth because if one was born poor, one did not have the time nor the money to, for instance, become a writer, an artist or a scientist. You needed a wealthy family to waste your time with such 'nonsense'. You can find exceptions to this general rule, but they are extremely rare. Sure, there were troubadours in medieval times, and you've always had maverick geniuses with little to no funds, but culture and science was something made by the rich, for the rich. This changed in the nineteenth century, but it wasn't an abrupt change at all. If you call that bullshit, I dare you to defend your standpoint with a myriad of examples. Because calling something bullshit means that not a thing about it is true. So go ahead, genius, do tell me why the history of science and culture is dominated by rich people like Huygens, Boyle, Franklin, Byron, Shelley, Thompson, Lavoisier, Sir Humphry Davy, ... the list is fucking endless.
That's why there's ableism and a whole new world of *ism.
There's too many men. Too many people. Making too many -isms. And not much love to go around. Can't you see this is a land of confusion?
Apparently alec thinks he needs to explain to me that the world has never been meritocratic. It's like he's never read anything I've ever written.
I wasn't objecting to that part of Gnidrologist's a-historical nonsense. More the bit about how this affected men and women equally. Or the bit about how that disappeared with urbanization. Or the bit about how mothership is "hardly an issue anymore" now. Or how his treatment of history (and yours) is amusingly euro-centric and monolithic. :kisses: