Fallout-related tidbits

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by WorstUsernameEver, Sep 9, 2013.

  1. Jabberwok

    Jabberwok Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Jun 7, 2008
    Oh man, that would be awesome.

    I don't understand why anyone would argue for Bethesda to make an isometric, turn-based game. A remake in the current style, maybe, though I don't know that I want that either. But Bethesda has pretty much been making the same game and nothing else (that i know of) for the past twenty years. First person, open world RPGs, only one of which was not called Elder Scrolls.
     
  2. WorstUsernameEver

    WorstUsernameEver But best title ever!

    May 28, 2010
    Even going just by the diplomatic interviews, it's clear that the relationship between inXile and Bethesda has been irreparably damage. Fargo really didn't like working with them, and I doubt Beth was satisfied with Hunted either.
     
  3. woo1108

    woo1108 Vault Senior Citizen

    Sep 27, 2012
    I rather want remake Fo1,2 as a non combat point-and-click adventure then beth's horrible fps AAA bullshit rpg. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
    I mean remake as beth's fps is really horrible don't mean I want adventure game.
     
  4. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I don't believe that though. I think it can be done. All you have to do, is to do it right. Games like Pokemon prove that neither the newest graphics nor real time gameplay for combat are needed to make a game a commercial success that can generate billions.

    Yes, certain games will probably always stay niche titles like Planescape Torment. But that doesn't mean some niche titles cant become block buster games that sell as much units like Skyrim. With the right marketing, everything is possible.

    The problem that I see here is that both game developers and publishers have spend a lot of time in the past 10 years to explain the "normal" gamer how shit and outdated those kind of games are and how real time action gameplay is the superior way to do things, remember Bethesdas marketing? The idea to bring Fallout to the "next generation" of games or something like that?. But I don't see why something that works for the movie business cant work with games for example. There is this idea that only totally ridiculous and over the top action sells, but you have always pearls appearing in Cinema like Matrix (the first one), that prove how something can be awesome, yet more then just brain less action.

    It could be done with turn based games, and hell you could also use the newest graphic engine, awesome physics and also make it a lot more important to the gameplay. Hard time dealing with those troops in that building? Blow up the whole building with explosives! I think a game with the depth of Jagged Alliance 2 and the newest graphics plus awesome and interactive story could sell very nicely if it had the right marketing. But if game developers believe that nothing else then CoD or Skyrim sells ... then this is what people will get till the point where they believe that only "those" kind of games can be awesome blockbuster games while they also support at the same time projects like Wasteland 2 and moan how those "big" companies continue to feed them with nothing else but games that are like Skyrim and CoD ...
     
  5. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Carbon Dated and Proud
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    Sep 14, 2009
    Why can't people just leave the two old ladies alone - F1 and F2 are great as is...now if someone was going to make a new isometric, turn based version of Fallout, only one man could do it, and that's Tim Cain (Fallouts daddy). I don't trust anyone else.
     
  6. woo1108

    woo1108 Vault Senior Citizen

    Sep 27, 2012
    Black isle did it without him though.
    they made 2 without him.
    and Tim made Arcanum which is far greater game than Fallout 1.
    but your right. without developer who made 1 and 2, it can't be real sequel of Fallout.

    sequel of remake without comprehension of intention of game is just POS. lots of remaking was bad because it was remaked without comprehension of intention of original. and I think only one who made original know about that.
     
  7. Surf Solar

    Surf Solar So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2009
    And it showed.
     
  8. woo1108

    woo1108 Vault Senior Citizen

    Sep 27, 2012
    Showed what? at least they made 2 fat better than 1 since they didn't copy Wasteland's plot.
     
  9. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Snug Rubber

    Sep 11, 2010
    How exactly did Fallout 1 copy Wasteland's plot?
     
  10. dustin542

    dustin542 First time out of the vault

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    Jul 2, 2009
    Maybe someone can remake New Vegas in Wasteland 2.
     
  11. Diospyros

    Diospyros First time out of the vault

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    Jul 15, 2008
    My best guess of what that guy is referring to is that at the time of FO1's development and release it was being hyped as a spiritual successor to Wasteland, in that it had some of the same people making it but they were barred from actually using the Wasteland name or setting. I'm old enough that as a kid I had Wasteland for my Commodore 64 when it was new and was absolutely thrilled when I heard they were making Fallout because it sounded more or less like a sequel. It was never sold to the public as a remake and I never thought it was going to be one.
     
  12. woo1108

    woo1108 Vault Senior Citizen

    Sep 27, 2012
    Guardian->BOS
    Servants of the Mushroom Cloud->Cathedral
    but different role

    Finster-> master
    Zax->Zax
    but different role

    Guardian base->lost hills
    Base cochise-> military base
    Darwin-> Cathedral
    sleeper's base->Glow
    Vegas-> junk town, hub

    faran brigo& fat freddy->killian darkwater&gizmo
    robots->mutants
    and same self destruction ending

    It's more then spiritual sequel .
     
  13. sea

    sea Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 5, 2009
    For fuck's sake, don't ruin the classic by trying to "enhance" it for modern audiences. Just see where that got Baldur's Gate.
     
  14. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Carbon Dated and Proud
    Modder

    Sep 14, 2009
    If Wasteland 2 ships with an editor I'm sure someone will try to make a remake of the original Fallouts, and good luck to them.
     
  15. WorstUsernameEver

    WorstUsernameEver But best title ever!

    May 28, 2010
    I'm picking this one in particular because the only similarity is the name (incidentally, it's VAX in Wasteland, but I assume you just made a typo). It's clear as day, and the devs never denied it, that Fallout was heavily inspired by Wasteland, but the plot is hardly a carbon copy.
     
  16. woo1108

    woo1108 Vault Senior Citizen

    Sep 27, 2012
    yep with my logic fo3 is copy of Fo1 and 2.
    so it would be exaggeration.
    but I think it's more than heavily inspired.
    for inspiring, fo3 and NV can say heavily inspired about Fo1's main quest: finding waterchip. but their plot is quite different from Fo1's but for Fo1, it's too similar.
     
  17. WorstUsernameEver

    WorstUsernameEver But best title ever!

    May 28, 2010
    The plot isn't really all that similar in Wasteland. The plot hook is different, the main threat is different in nature, the nature of the main characters is different, etc. To be honest, in terms of plot, the original Wasteland is more Terminator than Fallout.
     
  18. woo1108

    woo1108 Vault Senior Citizen

    Sep 27, 2012
    IMO that's matter of scenario and world design, not the plot.
    The plot is frame and scenario and world is color to fill.
    What player should do is too similar. but the story and character is different. as a game, it's quite similar, it can't say indenpent game but close to kind of remake. bu as a story it's different.

    and for remake it doesn't mean just copying but upgrading some part but means reinterpretation. so I can say Fallout 1 is good remake of Wasteland instead of copy of Wasteland.
    and it means I'm wrong to say Fo1 is copy of Wasteland.
     
  19. Ureh

    Ureh First time out of the vault

    5
    Sep 12, 2013
    Wow, those Fallout memorabilia are wonderful. I'd bid on it if I had the caps to spend.
     
  20. Gnarles Bronson

    Gnarles Bronson regular mutant

    373
    Oct 30, 2011
    Exactly. Showed they can make a better game without him.

    Fallout 2>>>>>>>>>>>>Fallout 1