Gun Control

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Throatpunch, Jul 25, 2016.

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    I mean that a "full ban", which can obviously never and shouldn't be because the standard model still allows ownership even with whatever respective qualms and restrictions, as with pretty much every and any sort of dangerous merchandise, would be more effective *than* the status quo solution, if that wasn't clear. I'm sure that's what would happen, but "the black market" is only accessed by the people who, as many have answered with before, WOULD commit whatever crime they thought to regardless, while detering the common lowbrow thug. It effectively wouldn't change that much, and this is a long term solution. Less guns are fed in circulation, less guns are being sent to the black market, and meanwhile they're ideally being confiscated, lost or even regulated as it goes.

    That's what deregulation of anything is. It's not a Thanos finger snap that is gonna make 50% of them crumble to dust, it's the *start* of a process that can take from a year to a decade or even more. 17 million firearms for 330 million inhabitants (and solely from the Black Market) already sounds like a desirable enough proportion, it'd roughly mean 19-24/100 inhabitants can have *one* gun each, which is WAY better than the recent-ish data showing that there's just *almost* as many weapons as inhabitants, 89 per every 100 citiziens. (yes, gun owners are 1/4 but shush it's not really important) And that's not counting for any possible unregistered guns and owners, of course.
     
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  2. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    How did they get the guns? Santa gave them to them, why of course!

    As for the (white guy? If it was a black guy the NRA would stay silent of course) gun guy who ran up on the cops with a gun and got shot, well sheet. That's what happens in USA. From your cold dead hands, remember that? Well ok then, we'll do it like that then. Actually, I want it that way. :D

    Pastor-guy...Well the "lord works in mysterious ways" I guess. Then again, maybe the guy was a necrophile and got his freak on in the end? :question:
     
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  3. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Seriously, I am a die hard leftist and even I have sometimes a hard time to take your opinion serious.
     
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  4. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    Too hard core? Too acidic? I'll sprinkle some sugar on it, ok? :)
     
  5. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Well, we on the hardcore far right nazi front appreciate all the scalpposting that makes our nazi conspiracy theories that lefties are crazy idiots seem like truth.
     
  6. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    I am cool with regulating private and gun show sales.

    If there is one thing I can agree with Crni is the culture about guns as toys or something that makes people manly. A gun is a TOOL.

    Also, we can have buyback programs where the government can subsidize the whole situation and give gun owners a FAIR price for their firearms. Some people get tired of their AR-15s and maybe want to mess around with a AK, G-36 or a SCAR for example. If I spend $1000 on a rifle, I would like to sell it for atleast 800-900 back.

    Little steps that do not trigger the COLD DEAD HANDS bit.
     
  7. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    I think you're a tool.

    That actually does make perfect sense. However, I don't think the 'government' has that much money to pay in order to get guns out of circulation, cheaper to just send in the SWAT.
     
  8. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Pretty sure a SWAT mission costs more than a thousand bucks per pop.
     
  9. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    @scalper

    Isn't this place call no MUTANTS allowed? What the hell are you doing here for MUTANT.
     
  10. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    Well maybe. Then again they wouldn't be getting all the guns back even for a 1000 bucks a gun in a gun buy back -thing so they would have to use SWAT/cops eventually.
     
  11. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Nothing like some good old-fashioned jackbooting to get the plebs in line.
     
  12. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    The benefits would outweigh the costs though. What needs to happen is to stop the "Iron Pipelines", only way to do that is through federal legislation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Pipeline
     
  13. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Everyone putting on the jackboots thinks that the benefits outweigh the cost.
     
  14. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    Yes, Hass. We're all about that 'murican fweedumb' here in the EU. What could be more horrible than federal legislation to curb gun violence in the US. Who cares about 30 k gun homicides every year including a large number of little kids dead from school shootings, it's not as bad as "jackboots!1"
     
  15. GonZo_626

    GonZo_626 Well Shit!

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    Jul 29, 2016
    Well this is just the stupidest thing I think you have ever said. It would take centuries of shooting in the states to even start to compare to what those who think they can enforce their will that way have done.

    I mean it would take 200 years just to catch up to the number of Jewish people your precious Nazi allies killed (6,000,000 by the way) and that's not accounting for the millions of other people the Nazis killed, so yeah go praise your jackboots again jackass. Oh and by the way swimming pools kill more kids then firearms in the states so should the jackboots go and fill all those fun pools up?
     
  16. I must say that it is kind of funny that people are so stubborn in that heavy requisitions and a stop of distribution would be impossible when just recently 4 people dying of E.Coli in cabbages ensued removed all cabbages from the market and imports until further notice seamlessly. Then again the Cabbage Black Market must have worked just fine for the rascals who couldn't get enough veggie goodness...

    Cabbage Control thread when?
     
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  17. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    Leave it to Arnust to make another incredibly inane comparison.

    Because sure, we can use a cabbage to stop tyrannical government politicians.

    Cabbage = GunZ.
     
  18. Excuse me, but hearty salads are a way more common and essential necessity. And if the government isn't tyrannical for VIOLATING your rights to forbid one specific type of merchandise in sake of the many, I don't know what is!

    It also was a point on the actual requisition process and the irony of acting on less than a handful of people when other endemic issues have raked a bigger body count to be answered with contentful inaction.

    And you know, joking. That's a part of it too, because it's funny.
     
  19. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    It is not so much about inaction (which I disagree with), but making sure any kind of action isn't going to be outright tyrannical.

    Any action needs to be commensurate with the consequences. This is especially more important when you take into consideration culture and amount of product already available.
     
  20. GonZo_626

    GonZo_626 Well Shit!

    521
    Jul 29, 2016
    The Cabbage black market does exist, its called having a garden at home. Can you stop people from growing there own good cabbage? Imagine that the jackboots are stomping through your garden uprooting all those precious cabbage heads. And wow, look the ban will be over and cabbage will be back on the shelves and hopefully some dumb people learned they need to wash there veggies before eating them.

    This is such a stupid comparison its like comparing apples to oranges.