Gun Control

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Throatpunch, Jul 25, 2016.

  1. Throatpunch

    Throatpunch Banned

    Apr 14, 2016
  2. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    *Ban guns*
    *People still get shot*

    Nice Job.:ok:
     
  3. Throatpunch

    Throatpunch Banned

    Apr 14, 2016
    This reply gave me a mind explosion. I'm done with this discussion.
     
  4. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    *Introduce vaccines*
    *People still get sick*
    Nice Job. :ok:
     
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  5. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Oh, and congratulations on your 206th mass shooting this year, USA!
     
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  6. Illuminati Confirmed!

    Illuminati Confirmed! Banned

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    Dec 15, 2015
    Your graph fails to mention that most of those "gun incidents" are suicides.
    Congratulations on your third (or is it fourth) terrorist attack this week, Germany.
     
  7. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    You forgot to mention that one was a suicide.
     
  8. Throatpunch

    Throatpunch Banned

    Apr 14, 2016
    More reason to ban them?
     
  9. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    Suicide doesn't count because suicidal people are weak and their demise strengthens society. More guns for depressed people!
     
  10. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    Because that would stop people from killing themselves.

    Don't mention an extension cord either, this topic is about guns.
     
  11. comscar

    comscar It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jul 8, 2009
    in the US, we have a crime problem.

    a criminal can, and will find a way to get a hold of a gun. i can safely say that the majority of gang banging thugs have obtained a pistol or what have you illegally by whatever means.

    "banning" guns won't stop them, and it won't stop a mass shooter either
     
  12. Throatpunch

    Throatpunch Banned

    Apr 14, 2016
    It did in the UK.
     
  13. Vergil

    Vergil Banned

    Jul 8, 2014
    It didn't in France.


    Mexico has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world and yet, in 2012, Mexico had 11,309 gun murders (9.97 gun homicides per 100,000 people) compared to the United States that had 9,146 gun homicides (2.97 per 100,000 people).
    http://gun-control.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=006082
    https://www.unodc.org/documents/con..._Statistics/Global_Study_on_Homicide_2011.pdf
    The country has only one legal gun store (the Directorate of Arms and Munitions Sales), compared to at least 63,709 legal gun stores and pawn shops in the United States as of Feb. 10, 2014. Mexico's gun store is on a secure military base and customers must present a valid ID, go through a metal detector, and turn over cellphones and cameras to guards. To actually buy a gun, customers have to show proof of honest income, provide references, pass a criminal background check, prove any military duties were completed with honor, and be fingerprinted and photographed. If allowed to purchase a gun, the customer may buy only one gun (choosing from only .38 caliber pistols or lower) and one box of bullets. So yea, as you can see by how wonderful of a country Mexico is, stricter gun control doesn't equal an abolition of crime and the ushering in of a Utopia. Also who would have thought, an extremely corrupt country is one that doesn't like it's citizens owning firearms. Hmmmm.
     
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  14. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    *Bans guns*
    *Cumbria Shootings still happens*

    Good job. :ok:

    But I guess acknowledging that wouldn't fit the narrative and we can't have that.
     
  15. Antiwarprofallout

    Antiwarprofallout It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jun 13, 2016
    There's no such thing as gun control, just the government using it's guns to take the guns of civilians. I believe a more accurate term is the centralization of guns in society.

    Generally this fails to accomplish it's goals, and creates a thriving black market for guns.

    Note, there were as many mass shootings in France in 2015 as there were in the US. Why? Maybe it's because folk do these for a reason rather than just because they have guns.
     
  16. Kohno

    Kohno Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    Jul 30, 2009
    It won't stop anything right away. But it might start reducing the statistics for better results in the longer run.
     
  17. valcik

    valcik So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Dec 20, 2008
    Recent findings from Europol: more than 160 prop (deactivated) guns smuggled to Italy by Cosa Nostra, activated again, and distributed all across Europe, or to ISIS occupied territories in some cases. This won't happen anymore in Slovakia, since our new (2015) legislative doesn't allow to sell the prop guns this way, I think that Cosa Nostra and other groups would simply find new source of weapons and the business would continue.
    https://www.europol.europa.eu/content/weapon-smugglers-arrested-italy-support-europol
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/23/cosa-nostra-assault-weapons-islamist-terror-group
     
  18. Throatpunch

    Throatpunch Banned

    Apr 14, 2016
    I mean, the anti gun - control logic is so flawed. Lunatics get hold of guns and kill people, so we should make it easier to access said guns? And don't come back at me with that bullshit about everyone owning guns. Half the idiots who buy them don't do training. And I don't mean how to shoot straight, they don't understand when to shoot.
    Lol shut up.
    Thats one mass shooting, pretty sure the only one that happened in 2010. All together in that year there were 60 gun shootings. Meanwhile in America, there were 11,078.
    Generally you are wrong because most nations have banned guns, and there are no thriving black markets. And where is your evidence. Any sources?
    I call bullshit. In the USA in 2015 they had 294 by Oct 2nd. France had about 2
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...15-274-days-294-mass-shootings-hundreds-dead/
     
  19. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    Horsepucky.

    Crime in the US has been dropping and there wasn't a gun ban. when they banned Semi-Auto rifles back in the 90's it didn't do anything since nobody uses Rifles to commit crime.

    There is a reason why the deaths are as high as they right now, but bringing that up gets you labeled a racist.
     
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  20. Vergil

    Vergil Banned

    Jul 8, 2014
    Yes because making it borderline impossible for ANYONE to get access to guns has worked out so well.

    In American, in 2004, an estimated 16% of state prison inmates and 18% of federal inmates reported that they used, carried, or possessed a firearm when they committed the crime for which they were serving a prison sentence. In 2004, among state prison inmates who possessed a gun at the time of offense, fewer than 2% bought their firearm at a flea market or gun show, about 10% purchased it from a retail store or pawnshop, 37% obtained it from family or friends, and another 40% obtained it from an illegal source. This was similar to the percentage distribution in 1997. So the lions share of people getting their hands on guns comes from an illegal source or they just get it from a friend or family member.
    http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fv9311.pdf