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Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Brother None, Aug 10, 2010.

  1. Mad Max RW

    Mad Max RW Mildly Dipped

    Jan 12, 2004
    Did I say it wasn't CGI in the end? I deliberately left out all the details about how they scanned and animated because I thought it was common knowledge around here. Key word in my original post: "first". Now they rely 100% on the 3d modeling software to do the work for them, and it definitely loses something in the translation. The previous posts in this thread all seem to imply the old talking heads started out as a computer render. In the late 90's when Fallout 1 and 2 were made 3d modeling software was still fairly new and extremely limited. With today's hardware and how far along 3d studio max has come you can do anything. However, that allows them to cut corners in development. In short, Marcus looks like a lifeless Hulk. But, whatever. That's the least of our problems. New Vegas will likely be crap anyway. Either through bugs or retarded design or plain old unfinished.
  2. Dork Mage

    Dork Mage First time out of the vault

    Oct 19, 2008
  3. Mettle

    Mettle Still Mildly Glowing

    Nov 9, 2007
    No bump-mapping someone said. Will likely look better at the release
  4. jero cvmi

    jero cvmi Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Oct 8, 2008
    Yeah, maybe he's trying to fit in with the "Orc from Warcraft" fashion and go along with the times. Maybe we'll have to do the same in 40 years, you never know.
  5. Vic Ious

    Vic Ious First time out of the vault

    Feb 7, 2010
    Unless your last name is Simpson.
  6. Guiltyofbeingtrite

    Guiltyofbeingtrite Vault Dweller

    Oct 13, 2008
    damn, i was about to post a pic. Half-way there.
  7. Jay-F

    Jay-F It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Apr 24, 2005
    Here you go:

  8. Elhoim

    Elhoim It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jun 3, 2008
    He's Morpheus! :lol:
  9. Starwars

    Starwars Mildly Dipped

    Sep 17, 2006
    Haha, man... Seeing that edit made me realize how amazingly flat the top of his head is.
  10. TwinkieGorilla

    TwinkieGorilla This ghoul has seen it all

    Oct 19, 2007
  11. sampson70

    sampson70 Still Mildly Glowing

    Dec 1, 2009
    So who is the dumb ass? CG vs realtime... thanks man. :roll:
  12. mobucks

    mobucks President of racism. Orderite

    May 22, 2010
    Looks like marcus hit the treadmill and then found a secret stash of L'Oreal age defying facial products, but all in all it is Head and Shoulders (no pun intended, I kill me) above the muties in fallout 3.
  13. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    I gotta admit I like how Obsidian is trying to get Fallout back to its roots as much as possible.

    In regards to the VAs, again its closer to the original Fallouts. One doesn't need A-list actors. It saes money and also who says TV actors and actresses do not have talent.
  14. K.C. Cool

    K.C. Cool It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Nov 4, 2005
    Working from clay isn't a bad idea at all, it's just another form of the creative process (and a quick medium to work with I might add). Venturing from the 80's into the early 90's, "3D modeling" wasn't as big or as popular. Not to mention the people that know how to use this type of software were even more scarce.

    Before modelers there were sculptors, a lot of sculptors switched gears into 3D modeling because there were jobs and money involved. Back then, it wouldn't be unheard of to use physical mediums to quickly iterate models before putting them into the computer. (Which is still a good practice, never underestimate older forms of creation!) Today, younger 3D modelers are usually trained on the computer from day one and wouldn't even consider using clay.

    Understanding the limits of the FO3 engine (texture memory and polygon limits) and the methods used in the past with FO2 (modeling and animating frame by frame to splice together images to give the illusion of a 3D rendered image) I still think it's silly that a modern game engine looks worse than a 2D game 11 years ago. I mean, I get why, but it's 2010, we're also suppose to have flying cars n shit.

    With that being said, I think it's awesome that Obsidian is doing some fan service when they don't really have a solid reason to. I felt the same feeling seeing that shot of Marcus as when I saw the original powered armor in FO3. Just nice, ya know?
  15. Grey_Ghost

    Grey_Ghost First time out of the vault

    Jul 19, 2004
    So that's what is bothering me, his upper lip should be smooth. The indentation shouldn't be there.
  16. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I think if I buy the game the first thing I will be doing is searching for better textures and such ...
  17. TwinkieGorilla

    TwinkieGorilla This ghoul has seen it all

    Oct 19, 2007
    i thought it'd already been discussed that this is likely an unfinished (re: untextured) render?
  18. Ausir

    Ausir Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Apr 20, 2003
    It's possible, but it's also likely to be final.
  19. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    He looks younger while he should be looking older.

  20. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all

    Apr 3, 2003
    Maybe Supermutants reverse age, like Brad Pitt in that really boring film