So yeah, Fallout 1 and 2 were amazingly good games because we could use our imaginations more often. The people we talked to, were gritty, sketchbag social rejects of the highest standards. The locations we visited had the absolute "holy shit, this is the end of the world" ambience that we were looking for. We could imagine all the details that we just couldnt see on those pixel-based lumps moving around on the screen. It was truly an RPG, just like the way people still play D&D on paper and pen with their friends. Imagination is KEY. So, Fallout 3 needs less of your imagination, more of everything is "fleshed" out more, unfortunately by fleshed out I mean that some noob is going to sit there and give you spiel about your quest in a lame voice that doesnt reflect a post nuclear wasteland at all. And the places you go are even less imaginative. But ISNT THAT THE SAME WITH THE FIRST TWO GAMES? Yes it is. Those feral ghouls that youre shooting up underground, those are citizens of the old america that SURVIVED the initial blasts of the war and mutated over time through radiation exposure. You know how Harold is still around, its the EXACT same thing. You can all hate on this game all you want. THIS IS FALLOUT. Its exactly what a nuclear powered america would have looked like in a burned out wasteland. Computers are nothing in that future, analog functionality is everything. Hence the reason why the old remnants of america have survived all this time in the harshness of the post glow world. I think if youre a true fallout fan like me, you'll be more forgiving of the fact that this game really is just Oblivion with guns. No one is disputing that or denying that. But the universe your oblivioning it up in is indeed the fallout universe. Fallout 1 and 2 had their time, and they still do. GOG.com, nice. All I can tell you fellow fans is that the TRUE Fallout universe will return, and we'll all be able to share the experience in FALLOUT ONLINE. I can gaurantee you that Fallout Online will be the greatest Fallout experience ever, and guess what it will be done by the good ol' boys of the black isle era and youre all going to have your minds blown. Bottom line, Fallout 1 and 2 and Van Buren had their time, Fallout 3 is the best we got to tie us over, its lame and under-done in WAY too many ways, but thats why were here, thats why we all bought this game, thats why were waiting for the true fans to bring us mods to make the game more like the REAL fallout universe. NO ONE can deny the RPG elements in Fallout 3, and I personally believe the mechanics are PERFECT for the fallout universe, all we need now is TRUE fallout content and less of this lame shit dialouge and lame cut and paste scenery(imagination, remember how EVERYTHING looked the same in fallout 1 and 2, we gotta use our imaginations to appreciate even new games, you know im right) And to everyone that gives Fallout 3 TOO MUCH CREDIT(you know who you are), i suggest you replay the first two games so you can understand just how UNDERSTATED the atmosphere and dark history of the world is in Fallout 3. Although I must admit Content wise bethesda has done most things in true Fallout fashion, they just came up short when it came to IMMERSION in that content. Fallout 1 and 2 are good games, youre a hero that saves the world by consequence of your action to save the people you care about. The desire to remain safely in the vault is way to understated in fallout 3. dont forget in fallout 1 they deny you reentry into the peace of the vault once you save the goddamn world of total enslavement to the master. FUCKING BETRAYERS!!!! In Fallout 3 youre just like "stfu amata, did we ever end up doing it? maybe we should before I leave, its a dangerous place out in the wastes, maybe we should because it might be my last chance, and ive always wanted you" ETC. Yes saying something like that is WRONG, but thats FALLOUT>?! ISNT IT?!!?!?! that concludes my rant, hopefully i didnt offend anyone, i hope you all enjoyed it and got some entertainment out of it.