It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down.

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Akratus, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. Kilus

    Kilus Not Australian Orderite

    May 3, 2003
    From the endings, not from a ghoul source:

     
  2. Someguy37

    Someguy37 Mildly Dipped

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    Nov 18, 2015
    Please tell me you aren't really this bad at following the argument made
    >Someone asks why did the ghouls die in Fallout 1
    >Points out that ghouls had no idea how their biology works and that radiation heals them
    >HERE'S THE SAME SOURCE ABOUT GHOULS DYING
     
  3. Kilus

    Kilus Not Australian Orderite

    May 3, 2003
    The source is not from a ghoul but from the ending narrator which is the direct voice of the game creators.
     
  4. Someguy37

    Someguy37 Mildly Dipped

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    Nov 18, 2015
    I am going to ask a completely honest question, and I apologize if it comes across as rude or insulting.

    But, are you dyslexic?
     
  5. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Simp Slayer

    Jun 15, 2015
    Anybody else enjoying seeing Someguy37 slowly lose it?
     
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  6. GlowHound

    GlowHound Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Jun 12, 2008
    Glowing Ones even supposedly emit radiation, and they probably died too.

    Gee, I wonder why. How come the other ghouls didn't just huddle around their sustenance-dispensing pals?
     
  7. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Funny how to someguy37 concept art on a loading screen is IRREFUTABLE CANON but the ending narration (which also happens to be the canon ending of Necropolis) Is not.

    Hmmm.
     
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  8. Someguy37

    Someguy37 Mildly Dipped

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    Nov 18, 2015
    Because, as pointed out before, ghouls are retarded, and have no idea that radiation heals them, some of them don't even know if they have to eat.

    Now you are just repeating questions that have been answered at least thrice.

    Nice straw man, I never once denied that the Fallout 1 ending was canon.

    and the whole argument thus far has been that those ghouls only died because they had no idea they had other ways to live.

    Its funny how habitually dishonest you are, and you don't even try to hide it. It speaks volumes of your character.
     
  9. Kilus

    Kilus Not Australian Orderite

    May 3, 2003
    Your argument is that ghouls don't know there own physiology and thus any knowledge they provide is suspect. I provide a source that is not a ghoul, the ending narration which is the voice of the authors, which proves without a doubt your argument holds no water. This is the last word, you are wrong, ghouls need water to survive.
     
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  10. GlowHound

    GlowHound Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Jun 12, 2008
    But Glowing Ones are literally filled with and made of radiation. They should be effectively immortal.

    Your insistence that they can subsist entirely on radiation is speculation anyway. Kid in a fridge is not evidence.
     
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  11. Someguy37

    Someguy37 Mildly Dipped

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    Nov 18, 2015
    It only proves that the ghouls died of dehydration, which is literally never said was impossible.

    So, once again, you misrepresent plain English text, and make me wonder about if English is your first language or not.

    They are effectively immortal, when have we ever seen a glowing one die of age?

    All the ghouls in places in Fallout 3, NV, and 4, which have been locked in buildings sealed for 200 years, and which have no edible food around, is plenty evidence.
     
  12. Kilus

    Kilus Not Australian Orderite

    May 3, 2003
    If it proves they died of dehydration it proves they need water. You have no argument which is why keep resorting to personal attacks.
     
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  13. Someguy37

    Someguy37 Mildly Dipped

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    Nov 18, 2015
    >a car stopped functioning because it ran out of gas.
    >This proves that cars NEED gas to run, and that theres literally absolutely no other means by which you could have powered the car beyond gas.
    Please tell me you don't actually believe that, because if you do, that's sad.
     
  14. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Okay, nice strawmen. We're not talking about cars that aren't even living, we're talking about FUCKING GHOULS who need water to survive, as said by Ghouls and the ending of Necropolis. How can the ghoul kid survive for 200 hundred years without water when we know they need it? Your argument has literally no basis, and the strongest you can do is put up a car?
     
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  15. Someguy37

    Someguy37 Mildly Dipped

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    Nov 18, 2015
    Except
    A. We don't know ghouls NEED water the survive, only that the ghouls of necropolis died to a lack of water that likely resulted in them not knowing that radiation heals them.

    B. As has been pointed out before, the door to the refrigerator isn't properly sealed, and has a fairly large gap in it, which is why his voice can come out, and why he had air to breath. Are you really so fucking thick skulled you dont understand that gap = water can get into the fridge. Its not like Boston is like D.C. or the Mojave, where it never rains ever.

    Once again, you manage to prove the Internet's stereotype of NMA right.
     
  16. Kilus

    Kilus Not Australian Orderite

    May 3, 2003
    I advise everyone not to further engage Someguy37 on this topic. We can explain it to him until we are blue in the face but we can't understand it for him.
     
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  17. TransgenderVaultDeweller

    TransgenderVaultDeweller "Fallout 4 adds to the lore"

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    Aug 14, 2015
    "
    Without their water purifying control chip, they do not survive"

    >They do not survive.

    >Do not

    >Survive

    That is clear as day, Proof that is the reason they do not survive, is due to lack of water. They clearly need water and they didn't have the resource so they died of dehydration. Stop trying to jump around the fact rationalize it to defend the stupid quest that the idiot pete hines refuses to elaborate on.
     
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  18. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    This, coupled with you calling people autistic in other threads, is why you fail.
     
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  19. Someguy37

    Someguy37 Mildly Dipped

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    Nov 18, 2015
    I seriously wonder how the fuck you can keep on posting that when its been explained already.

    I mean, I knew before I signed up here that NMA was a massive echo chamber/hug box of irrational contrarians, but this constant barrage of not actually refuting any points made defies belief.

    >pointing out that someone seemingly doesn't grasp the basics of the English language is why I fail.
    So pointing out the obvious makes someone a failure?
     
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  20. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Simp Slayer

    Jun 15, 2015
    Dude you are the one who is going around and twisting facts in order to have them fit your beliefs and personally attacking and insulting people here. You are nothing but a irrational fanboy who we have tolerated long enough. You maybe the biggest idiot and blowhard I have ever come across on here.