Movie Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Serge 13, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    I like Lethal Weapon, as in, I've watched it as a kid and loved the hell out of it. I suppose I wouldn't be that impressed now.


    Watched El Topo the other night, first time watching Jodorowsky (I respect his work a lot, what he had done and written in comics was brilliant). I still need to gather some thoughts about this film however. I guess I like it, but there are still several things in that film that I find a bit confusing and they require some thought.
    Visually, it was quite unique however, at least in my experience. I suppose that alone makes it worth watching.

    I'm planning on watching The Holy Mountain these days. From what I've heard, that's his best/most controversial film to date.
     
  2. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Have you already watched Santa Sangre by him too? That one is also pretty weird.
     
  3. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    I watched Jodorowsky's Dune, and absolutely loved it. Any of his movies you guys recommend? Please keep in mind that if any of his movies are as focused on metaphors as that movie Enemy, then I'll probably hate it, if they're as obtuse as that movie.
     
  4. SnapSlav

    SnapSlav NMA's local DotA fanatic

    Jul 1, 2012
    Right. So did I. And that's why watching it a few weeks ago was all the more painful. The cringe made reflecting back on liking it when I was younger that much more disturbing. Not that it aged poorly, but that it just never made ANY sense at all! Die Hard aged, but it still makes sense. John McClain didn't finally get to Hans and decide to throw caution to the wind just cause it's cool and suddenly have a cheesy martial arts bout. Nope, hostage situation, only 2 bullets, show up bloodied and beaten and start laughing enough to get the 2 guys' guards down and shoot them both once to save the day. No climatic fisticuffs, just do what needs to be done. The exposition was from natural conversation from the bad guys that McClain eavesdropped on, not ridiculous shake downs by the good guys to a character they THOUGHT was a good guy only to find out they were tied to the bad guys all along, and when asked "Why not kill you?" tell them "They can't kill me, they NEED me!" and explain how their position is vital... ONLY FOR THEM TO BE KILLED SECONDS LATER BY THE BAD GUYS ANYWAY!!! Establishing McClain's character was done by small conversations with a fellow airplane passenger and with his driver, then reinforced with a subsequent fight with his wife. Establishing Riggs character was through people saying he's crazy, having a ridiculous moment in a POLICE PRECINCT where he gets attempted-tackled by his partner, and then his first outing with his new partner have him jump off a roof with an attempted suicide jumper because SOMEHOW the guy never noticed the police set up the inflatable safety cushion directly below him for 5 whole minutes.

    Everything about Lethal Weapon was just silly and ridiculous, and watching it now while recalling that I once LIKED it just hurt... >_<
     
  5. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Oh well.

    I watched recently - expect some spoilers coming your way!

    Godzilla (2014), it was not as bad as I thought, actually, it was pretty decent even for a monster movie. It had its typical holywood cliches, but overall, good old monster fighting. I just wish it had a bit more from that. I am not sure if I like the idea of the prehistoric origin, but oh well. The part that bothers me is the Monsters that fight with Godzilla. I get it. They feed of from radiation. No problem! That's why one of them used the nuclear plant in Japan to evolve. But the monster is doing nothing else then collecting Nuclear warheads? Which for some reason the US military wanted to use to destroy the creatures, despite the warnings of the Japanese/Asian scientist telling them, that it didnt worked really in the past. Oh yes! And it is not even like those nuclear wareheads have THAT much radiation inside them to begin with I mean not when you compare the other sources in the movie that those creatures seem to completely ignore for what ever reason. One of the two creatures starts inside a permanent repository that happens to be right next to Las Vegas, and it has nothing better to do then walking to San Francisco to build its nest there ... with the bomb the other creature stole on its way to meet it ... alright. Why not just stay where it was? With all that ... nuclear waste ... around it? Or walking to the next nuclear plant in Nevada. I mean I am bitching about the movie right now, but dont get wrong. I really liked it. The fighting was awesome. In my opinion. And that is what counts. But I just hate lazy science and plots. I mean yeah, big monsters, mountains of meat fighting each other, looking for physics here is maybe the wrong place. But how about logic? This "hur durr! IMA GENERAL! HAVE TO USE NUKES, NO MATTER THE COAST!" gets really really old ... seriously, give those military generals a bit more credit. Not all of them are like Curtis E. LeMay. Though, I can still recomend it. Its definitely better then Emerichs Transexual Godzilla hunting fish ...

    Edge of Tomorrow. A good mindless Science Fiction flick in my opinion. Very entertaining, if you dont exepct a plot that is going TO deep. I mean it is, after all a typical alien invasion movie and they dont go in to details why the aliens are here, and honestly. They dont have to. The fighting is good, the characters are alright, the story works well enough. And the best part? No romance. Seriously. That alone makes the movie awesome. There is this one scene, where I thought, oh god please no, dont do this, no no dont have sex now ... and! The female did the right thing - for an action flick, considering that she was a battle hardened soldier and the experience she had. So, no stupid forced romance plot.

    Amazing Spider man 2. Garbage. Sorry! There is not much that I can say except that. Absolute garbage. Rushed. Forced emotional reactions, nonsensical plot-holes and boring acting. I didnt liked Amazing Spider man really much, but the second movie really is worse. Maybe its just my opinion no clue. And the issue isnt even that they do everything to set up a third and fourth movie even, but they had more or less 3 vilains in Amazing Spider 2. Electro, the Green Goblin (who was absolutely shit ...) and Rhino. I mean really? Was there a reason to throw the green goblin in this? He has literaly like a 30 sec. fight with Spiderman, and bam! Thats it! I can accept Robot-Rhino, considering how many "genetic" freaks they had so far they simply needed something else and I guess Doc Oc will be the vilain for the next movie or something, but at this point, James Franco did a MUCH better job then Dane DeHaan, even though Dane was the more convincing Harry Osborn from his looks, but since they had the Goblin appear literaly in more or less the ending of the movie there was no time for his arch to develope. Sure Harry and Peter have not seen each other for 8 years. Ok! They have been best friends! But give the audience time to actually SEE that hapen. All in all such a brainless action flick ... and Electro was really forgettable.

    I watched again, the X-Files, the movie. Now I love the TV series, definitely one of the best of the 1990s, but Oh god. Maybe its because I was a kid back then, but I can not remember that the movie was THAT(!) bad, compared to the TV series at least. I mean lets be honest, the TV series really is full of plot holes and all that, but it has its own quality. But the movie? Most of the reactions dont make sense. Oh! We lost the trail of those white trucks. Hm? Where could they be! I know! Lets follow this highway! Ok, left or right? NAH! IM A DRIVE TROUGH THE BUSHES THERE! and suddenly white trucks on train appear and they find a secret base in the midle of nowhere ... wtf. And its not even like the plot in the movie was not already explored in some of the episodes already. Except that the way how Mulder and Scully follow the trails was done a lot better, in a way where it made more sense. The movie simply feels rushed.
     
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  6. rdalev

    rdalev First time out of the vault

    6
    Jul 28, 2014
    Just thought I'd bring it up, since the post above mentioned the Xfiles. Amazon funded a few series pilots, then asked people who watched them what they thought about them, of course the ones with positive reviews were given a green light to be made into a full series.
    One of them is called "The After" and it's produced by Chris Carter, the same guy who did the Xfiles.
    Personally enjoyed it and am looking forward to the series.
     
  7. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Crni no romance in Edge of Tomorrow? Dude, the only thing they didn't do was kiss on screen, the movie itself ends with "Cage" goign to the base to meet her again (Spoilers in the Novel/Manga they have a one night stand and then she dies, no snap back at the end, the war with the mimics just coninues).
     
  8. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    They do kiss, right before Cage runs to the waterbasin where the Omega is.
     
  9. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I know I am a bit agressive right now, I hope you forgive me that! I mean I really like the movie, I am pretty sure that I am going to watch it again some time.

    The whole conection between the two characters screams "HE LOVES HER SO MUCH" in all of our faces, the romance is alright. I dont have a problem with that, poor choice of words from my side. He loves her. She lost someone important. I got that. But in my opinion that isnt as bad like a sex scene forced in somewhere just to show some naked bodies, which thankfully they didn't. To many great action movies get ruined by that, just because they believe that its awesome to have a 5-10 min sex scene or something, I believe that it simply doesnt fitt the pacing of the movie, at least most of the time. If want to see that, then I'll be watching a porn movie. If I want to see aliens geting blown to pieces, then I want to see aliens getting blown to pieces. That characters have some romantic interaction or the typical flirt is alright! Hell a kiss isnt even a problem. That is part of the character development, the arch. But a sex scene in the middle of nowhere? Blargh! Spare me. Is Aliens a worse movie because Ripley and Hicks never fucked their brains out while death and danger surounded them? You could still feel that there was a conection between them. I mean it depends really a lot on the movie, its plot and style. But in most cases, sex scenes lower the quality of action movies. I am not saying sex cant be a topic in action movies, its just something that should not be throwin in there, just to have it.
     
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  10. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    There is ONE fucking romance scene right before they might die, how is that a problem?
     
  11. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    THe problem is that it's the most whitewashed movie since Last Airbender.
     
  12. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    it isnt.
     
  13. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    Are you being sarcastic, or. . ?
     
  14. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Have you read All you need is kill? Becuase, the amount of whiewashing in this thing was ridiculous.
     
  15. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    I haven't read it, but I guess I get you there. I hated the racial casting in the last airbender, myself.
     
  16. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    At least the last Airbender didn't change Aang's name into Andy.... Keiji turns into William Cage, wtf? also that ending...
     
  17. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I guess its only something that is a problem if you are a fan of the manga/cartoon.

    Though, the last airbender is shit, no matter if you saw the cartoon or not :seriouslyno:
     
  18. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    Did you seriously expect an american hollywood adaptation of a japanese novel to keep the original names?
     
  19. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    It doesn't even keep the story or the tone either... Like that cancelled american Akira movie.
     
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  20. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    What did you expect?