Without the intention to start a "what gameplay is better" discussion I just want to sayt hat what you call a "vessel" is for some indeed very important. As it gives us a different experience. NOw I would never want every game to become a birds view or either tourn based. Letz be honest and realistic here. But once I remember that gamevelopers offered diversity. A time when companies like Interplay managed to make games that do not feel alike. Blood & Magic was not comparable to Messiah or Fallout. Now when looking to a company like Bethesda. It seems like all they can do is use "their" formula and squeze anything inside it, regardless if its usefull or not. And this does not only count for the gameplay but the way how the game feels (like how the quests look and feel). For many of us the gameplay is like sport. Hands down both football and baseball are 2 sports. They have movements, balls and they are good for your health. But it are 2 different games which offer completely different experience. No one with half a brain would seriously come up with the idea that either Baseball or Football is inherently better then the other. Yet thats exactly what many do with gameply, claiming real time is ALWAYS better then tourn based. Tourn Based is today a very small niche market. But that doesnt mean its a bad gameplay. It just offers a different perspective. I could never imagine doom beeing anything else then a shooter just as I could never imagine the ideal Fallout beeing anything else then tourn based. But thats just me.