NCR, Enclave, FEV Curling-13 (and mutants)

It's interesting that ALL military trucks available have flat tires.
All that airplanes staitioned at McCarran are a waste too.
Or can we assume they were used?

I wasn't clear enough, NCR has to have trains, because NCRCF was created for expanding the rail lines.
The reason is clear enough.
I only wish we see some of these passing through, like a convoy of trucks carring something for Hoover Dam.

I know that the "wasted" enviroment is guilty because of FO3 textures, meshes and enviroment, but I hope the next Fallout games shows some development and clean constructions, depending of the location.
Common, it's more than 200 years after the war, that ammount of ruble in the middle of everything, dirty rooms, beds, buildings and such or the dirty clothes that everyone uses, even in the middle of the city, is a little unrealistic.

Or maybe bath and hygiene is not anymore a people's priority.
Gosh, we returned to the middle ages, when everyone was a pig?

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I am not saying the NCR doesn't have working trucks, I actually expect they do.
I just don't expect a lot of traders having them.

Exception might be cases like the 'family truck', descendants from truck drivers who have inherited and maintain the truck of their ancestor to continue the family trade.

 

The flat tired are a good point. Though for now I would guess it's an oversight of some sort.

About that airplanes, I don't think they have been used, no. But one would guess that the NCR tried to get everything possible out of them (like spare parts, metal,...).

 

Oh yes, I know that, I don't expect merchants using trucks too. I know that cars don't exist in FO universe excepting The Highwayman, and if they exist, NCR and other big factions will probable seize them.
But I wish we have some indication that this type of things still exists in working condition or are being created again.

For example, when talking with Chomp Lewis in Sloan one of the courier's questions is what is a dragline, so I'm assuming that they didn't have this in NV and NCR bring it from California.
Also, as the question indicates, the people of the Mojave don't even know that certain technologies still exists.

NCR appears to be much more developed than the game shows, because you need some skills and factories for manufacturing the service rifle in larger quantities, like they do.
Or they are build by the Gun Runners?

I wish that future Fallout's actually show some of this, instead of letting us guessing about.

 

This is not true. I am too lazy now to search the part in the Fallout Bible, but it's said that at least the NCR has around 1000 cars. That's also the reason why there is a special NPC (Fallout 2) in the NCR, which you can pay to protect the stuff in your car. If you would have the one and only working car around there, for sure he would have reacted a bit different than "yeah, I am here all day, watching over cars."

The Gun Runners are the main suppliers for the NCRs army. Though, I don't think they produce the bodyarmors for the troopers. So they must come from someone else.

 

New reno had the 1000 cars (big jesus?) and the npc that watch over your car, but i suppose the NCR take the cars.

 

Why, what does the russians and the Yazukas have to do with Las Vegas? The Chairmen are a reference to Frank Sinatra and the Rat pack, the Omertas were a reference to the less pleasant aspects, Mr. House is a reference to Howard Hughes, The white glove society for me at least represents the glamour of Vegas, that hides something. Everything fits. The russian mafia and the Yazuka wouldn't work at all.

 

NCR poorly written? How's that?
NCR, compared to Legion at least, in rich in content, very rich. It has its backstory, which isn't illogical, its motives, ideology that, somewhat different, has been out there for more than 400 years. Many NCR members have their own motives and opinions about various things in the game, and most of them are really well done.

I don't see how NCR is poorly written. Sure, it lacks some aspects, and can be inconsisten or confusing at times, but that's not some big flaw. In reality, which (modern) game doesn't have such problems?

 

You mean that you actually like the Legion more than NCR, right?
Well, I like black shoes more than collered ones, but hey...it's juts that, an opinion.

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That's really what you got out of that speech? Really? Hanlon was doing what he was doing because he saw it as the quickest way to get the NCR out of their untenable situation in the Mojave with the least loss of life, not because of any petty inter-military jockeying.

 

That is more because the game has shown the Legion that way. We can not assume that there would not be people which do NOT want to die for Caesar, or think he is eventually wrong or simply do not want to be in some war - Particularly when you consider how the simple Legionnaire is equipped and the mortality rate. While Vegas is trying hard to show some kind of fanaticism in the Legion it is simply not realistic. Even with the best brainwashing be it from the Nazis or The Communists most people actually prefer NOT to be wars and avoid it if possible. And funny is that in some situations (albeit rare) you will get conversations with people where they show some doubts about Caesar even Caesar himself is worried about it at some point showing himself to the troops as weak.

One of the problems I have with the Legion is that it shows almost no diversity which you would expect in some army with thousand if not hundred thousand of men. In the NCR you have from patriotism to anger, fear and disappointment a wide range of mixed feelings which makes them more realistic then the Legion. You might send new recruits in combat being all proud about it. But war can very fast change the opinion of people. Like mentioned many times. What Vegas is missing is a town controlled by the Legion with their typical citizens, guards and veterans.

 

In short, they are like the average real world democracy. Which was the point behind the creation of this faction, I think.

 

Honour? They sell women as sex slaves and they have no quarrels with killing civillians. Courageous? They either fight or they are killed, they don't do it because their brave. The Legion may not be two dimensional as NV shows, but they certainly aren't any of the things you describe them as. In fact, most of the named Legion NPCs you meet, are arrogant, sadistic and insult you the first time you meet them.

 

what ever the NCR is. But the Legion has no honor either. How so ? They only follow Caesar. And his word is the law. As simple as that. He talks all nice with tribes as long he needs them and simply assimilates them later. See the Khans. It is one way how to get them out of the alliance with Caesar. He is a schmock. A powerful schmock. But still a schmock. And his faction doesn't even make sense without him.

 

Who said it was?

Uh? What did the NCR do to Boone?

Except [spoiler:c1d20eefd3]it was Boone that killed her and he did so only because the "honourable" Legion bought her and her unborn son to enslave them for life.[/spoiler:c1d20eefd3]

Yeah, right. Caesar burned down some villages and settlements while killing all its inabitants that didn't surrender just to make an example out of them. I'm sure he would just let live the survivor of an organized and dangerous faction that could pose a threat if he let them reorganize. You know, exactly like what happened with the Enclave, that after the destruction of the Oil Rig and Navarro regrouped on the east coast planning to do other eeeevil stuff.

And what about the captured enemies (even the respected rangers) that are brought in his camp just so they can entertain the legionaries in the arena?

 

Where has it been stated that Brahmin Barons treat people like slaves? They have considerable influence in the NCR senate, and they tend buy out the smaller ranches or force them to sell, but other than that theirs no reason to say they treat people like slaves.