Wasteland 2 Update: Attributes and Skills Breakdown

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Brother None, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. Ohaimerk

    Ohaimerk modoc, den, grave Orderite

    Mar 30, 2009
    There were a few instances where they were used though. For example, strength could be 'used' to open a stuck door in the vault in Vault City
  2. Sub-Human

    Sub-Human -

    May 31, 2011
    How useful would Perception be if a character is specialized in Examine? What's the point of a modifier which you cannot use if you dumped points into an active ability with a similar function?

    The question I'm asking is - if a character has a high Perception, does he really need a good Examine skill if he can just take a look at a wall anyways? Or, similarly, if a character has a high Examine, does he need to invest in Perception to be able to notice things clearly?
  3. UncannyGarlic

    UncannyGarlic Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 6, 2008
    You can't use Perception but you can use Examine. It sounds like Perception just gives you base points in Examine and whatever other skills use it as a base stat, like in Fallout.
  4. Autoduel76

    Autoduel76 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    May 14, 2007
    You can't look at a wall with Perception.

    It's not useable. And your examine skill would suck without good perception.
  5. Sub-Human

    Sub-Human -

    May 31, 2011
    But could you use a null Examine skill to look at a wall? So does that mean I could dump my points into Perception, getting a boost in several skills, then put a single point into Examine and have the advantage of being able to look for clues?

    If that is true, that would make Examine a rather useless skill, since you could just get Perception, which gives you a boost in several other skills and free skill points which you can invest into Handguns or Cyborg Tech.
  6. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    They're doing a poll on the acronym. Change Perception to Awareness and Expertise to Coordination


    I think that's a really cool change, myself.

    Be sure to vote!
  7. woo1108

    woo1108 Vault Senior Citizen

    Sep 27, 2012

  8. Autoduel76

    Autoduel76 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    May 14, 2007
    Sure you could look for clues. It doesn't mean you find them. Like with all skills I would assume there are minimum thresholds you would have to meet.

    Let's say you have a max skill value of 100 and max attribute vale of 10.

    Lets say the examine skill starts out at 2*Perception.

    So, go ahead and max out perception so you have a 20 in Examine.

    You will be 20% as effective at examining things as somebody that maxed the skill out.
  9. rattlenik

    rattlenik First time out of the vault

    Mar 24, 2012
  10. Sobboth

    Sobboth It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Aug 29, 2010
    I'm too lazy to look for my password, register and vote but Classic is really good.
    Awareness is better than perception in a role-play perspective and Coordination way better than expertise.
    The acronym is quite nice too even if i like better Ass Clip ;)
  11. ptar

    ptar First time out of the vault

    Oct 29, 2012
    Someone PM me with the info I need to SPLICE my mind please. Dude
  12. Kyuu

    Kyuu Insert Awesome Title Here

    Jul 19, 2007
    Uh, sure, you could probably dump all your attribute points into Perception (up to whatever the maximum is) which would give you a higher starting Examine skill, among others. But obviously, that would give you fewer points for your other attributes and you would still have to put skill points into Examine for tougher checks against that skill.
  13. Ian Worthing

    Ian Worthing First time out of the vault

    Nov 18, 2012
    Maybe toaster repair is a reference to Battlestar Galactica, in which the Cylons were insultingly called "toasters."
  14. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Moderator Modder

    Apr 24, 2005
    Toaster Repair is a homage to the toaster repair skill from Wasteland 1. If I remember correct, it is the "bonus skill" which you could get with pleding x amount of money on kickstarter.
  15. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    This art rocks.