What will be the canon ending of New Vegas?

Discussion in 'Fallout: New Vegas Discussion' started by Surf Solar, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. aboniks

    aboniks Still Mildly Glowing

    Jan 17, 2012
    Does there need to be a single canon ending?

    I'd like to see FO4 start out the character creation screen with a request to load an end-game save from FO3 and NV, and then base the factions and main quest line of the new game on what you did in the previous games.

    If it was in the games, it's canon. Why not extrapolate that idea as far as possible.

    Okay, obviously the answer to my question is that it would be a hideously complex task to build FO4 in such a way that it would provide meaningfully different game play based based on your previous choices...but it would be sweet.

    I know bioware did this to some degree in mass effect, but doing it right in fallout might be asking too much.

    Meh. I can dream.
  2. Sub-Human

    Sub-Human -

    May 31, 2011
    It's certainly be possible in the future. If we ever get those fancy virtual reality machines for gaming, the industry is almost certainly going to change its focus.

    So just you wait, pals.
  3. brandonhart61

    brandonhart61 It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Dec 24, 2011
    The code snippets are the data on Mr House's network that he put on there that change Yes Man from a sycophant to an assertive individual, which can be seen as Yes Man filling Mr Houses role in case Mr House dies.
  4. DevilTakeMe

    DevilTakeMe Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Sep 12, 2011
    Trim your "quotes" down a bit, if you don't mind.

    J.E. Sawyer stated that betrayal or Yes Man otherwise asserting his own vision wasn't the implication that they were trying to go for with Yes Man, rather that he'd be capable of functioning by himself without some random schmuck pulling the same thing you pulled on Mr. House.

    J.E. Sawyer clarified what is happening with Yes Man when he "upgrades" himself.

    Essentially, Yes Man will control New Vegas depending on how the Courier tasks him with that purpose. The upgraded code simply makes it so that Yes Man will remain loyal to the Courier, so no one else can pull what the Courier did with Mr. House.
  5. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Shoot me again. I ain't dead yet. Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    ^Thanks for posting that. I was curious about that too.
  6. Oppen

    Oppen FIXT n°1 fan

    Dec 26, 2011
    Me too, I didn't play enough with Yes Man yet, just did one playthrough until now, and I sided NCR.
  7. Richwizard

    Richwizard Waiting to die Orderite

    Jan 18, 2010
    There is actually a clue to the canon ending within the game, in the form of the Courier's Duster. It's a little reward you get after finishing Lonesome Road that is mostly identical to Ulysses' duster. The emblem on the back varies depending on which faction you are most strongly allied with.

    NCR = Two headed bear
    Legion = Bull
    Mr. House = Old world flag, same as Ulysses
    Yes Man = Large black spade with the number 21 imposed over it

    However, regardless of which emblem you get in-game, the ending slide in the game shows the Courier walking into the sunset wearing the "Yes Man" emblem on the back of his duster. This indicates that the canon ending will be an independent New Vegas.
  8. Makenshi

    Makenshi Ahoy, ye salty dogs!

    Jul 28, 2006
    What of the Khans? There is a pretty interesting scenario where the flee to wyoming and create an empire there. In my book, empire = big bad ass mofo.
  9. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    And that Empire is forged with the help of the FOllowers peopel that must be tired of the NCR pushing them around, having the NCR endings plus that Khan Ending along with the Legion splitting into smaller factions would make for a good follow up IMO.
  10. White Knight

    White Knight Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Aug 28, 2010
    No it dosen't. For all we know, they might've used that so they could have an ending that didn't favour any particular faction, as well as the fact its similar to the vault 21 suit that courier is seen wearing in the vanilla game endings. I doubt obsidian has already decided what ending is canon. Some of the staff may have their own favourite faction, but I doubt they've set in stone what happens. We'll just have to wait and see in the next fallout game Obsidian develops, if they do develop another.
  11. Sub-Human

    Sub-Human -

    May 31, 2011
    Actually, I thought the same. Maybe the Yes-Man version was the first duster that they had invented so they stuck that up in the ending slide, and were too lazy to add the other models in later on.

    Although I see an Independent/Mr House ending more tolerable. Essentially if the NCR won, they'd have a hand against the Legion, and vice versa. Since both of these are vital to the franchise at this stage, a stalemate is a perfect stance for the developers not to make some players upset.
  12. Makenshi

    Makenshi Ahoy, ye salty dogs!

    Jul 28, 2006
    I don't see the Legion as vital to the franchise, at least not as a big player (if they win). Even in a stalemate or NCR victory, they will still exist, either unified under a new leader or divided between aspirants to the place of Caesar.

    NCR struggled to control the Mojave, which was never under Legion control; it surely would be hell to try and conquer Arizona anytime soon, and I bet they will reinforce their control (and MAYBE development) of Mojave before another shot at unclaimed border territories. And even then, they will likely expand into Idaho or Oregon, not Arizona. Especially if the Legion stays unified.

    And don't forget the inner conflicts: Redding, San Francisco, New Reno and Vault City were independent in 2242, it's unlikely that everything is nice and settled after just 30 years or less of anexation. Plus, there is the Brotherhood war deep indise NCR territory, which ain't exactly solved, and the implications of the caravan massacre on Mojave among the cavaran companies' headquarters.
  13. NeonSynth

    NeonSynth First time out of the vault

    Mar 2, 2012
    Hey I was reading this and I agree well would love to see and Independent Vegas run by most Likely Yes Man and go further into NCR Territory and land into The Hub I believe there are many things they can do with something like that and I think it would be fascinating to see how that city would work and look like. I also believe that Ceaser's Legion would die off and go back to the tribal aspect but a bit smarter then in the past and the Followers would be a bigger group and do more good and possibly i think maybe NCR becomes the Villains in the game where as the Followers will be the good faction because they teamed up with the Brotherhood after finally realizing that they should work together for the betterment of Mankind and the survival of the brotherhood
  14. Oppen

    Oppen FIXT n°1 fan

    Dec 26, 2011
    Neon, the anarchist faction couldn't go indefinitely further into another faction's territory, simply because there are no working securitron factories. If they expand, they become inherently weaker, as they'd have less securitrons per surface to protect. They'll probably choose the local utopy instead of a dispersed mess.
  15. NeonSynth

    NeonSynth First time out of the vault

    Mar 2, 2012
    I actually mistyped right there i was meaning that yes man stayed in New Vegas area but the next game would go into The Hub area sorry about that I did not even realize I did that thanks for showing that to me
  16. BLOODYo

    BLOODYo First time out of the vault

    Mar 16, 2012
    The canonending I would like is the Independent Vegas Ruled by The Courior. And that thing at the end where Yes Man said "I'm going to install software to make me more assertive." would point to a nice game in the future of New Veags if they make it canon.
  17. Mysterious Stranger13

    Mysterious Stranger13 First time out of the vault

    Apr 15, 2012
    Who is Ms House, Mr House's sister?
  18. Mysterious Stranger13

    Mysterious Stranger13 First time out of the vault

    Apr 15, 2012
    That sounds like something Bethesda would do
  19. Mysterious Stranger13

    Mysterious Stranger13 First time out of the vault

    Apr 15, 2012
    House, all the way, he is the only way to keep a steady and growing New Vegas falling in to the hand of the evil Legion or the Greedy NCR, Yes Man would cause Vegas to fail, anarchy is not the soultion
  20. palaweno22

    palaweno22 First time out of the vault

    Apr 15, 2012
    I think that the canon ending would be an independent vegas since the anarchy would be a great setting plotwise, however i hope F4 would be in a different area like the clean slate New Arroyo( since its not stated that it's part of the NCR), where 5 years after the events in New Vegas, the Chosen One dies "mysteriously" leaving no clear heir, here various factions like the Chosen One's bastard Mr. Bishop are claimants, there are the NCR and NV embassies trying to influence events, and your character, maybe the Courier himself finds out that he's a bastard of the Chosen one as well and vie for control of that major city.