Every time again ... E3 rant topic.

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Crni Vuk, Jun 11, 2017.

  1. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016


    Tell me lies~
     
  2. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Vault Fossil

    Jun 15, 2015
    I love how Bethesda is trying to save face with the paid mods fiasco.
    "No, no, its not paid mods. See, you buy credits and use those credits to get mods. Its totally not the same thing."
     
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  3. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    The ironic thing is Bethesda has been releasing paid mods for years now.

    They call them this weird name, something like "Dee El See" or something.

    So funny, actual modders have made better things.
     
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  4. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Girl gamers don't exist.

    Camwhores do though.
     
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  5. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Well I am going off of how it works in graphic design and usage of stock assets. Different websites specify the terms of use of each available assets and it ranges from requiring just a credit on the website or just a upfront payment. If someone jist releases their assets into the wild and doesn't specify terms of use then they'll have a hard time pursuing any kind of action against people using them for profit. Altho I have no idea what the Nexus terms of use are if any.

    Your image itself shows a credit at the top and amzon images come with the explicit permission of being for promotional use.
     
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  6. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    I honestly always hated this whole 'walling off content' when its literally just mod shit.

    You aren't supposed to get money on it...But...

    I've seen single ship mods for Battlestations Pacific get sold for literally a hundred odd dollars.

    Insane.

    Imagine how many more mods and how much quality they could be, if people stopped going 'Original content, donut steel'.
     
  7. Kremin

    Kremin It Wandered In From the Wastes

    187
    Jun 10, 2016
    Everything this year looked pretty mediocre, honestly. Only thing I've heard about and kinda hyped for is the new Metro game, don't know if it'll be any good, though.
     
  8. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Metro...

    Open World...

    Pick one.

    Metro's surface as depicted in the games is WAY too hostile to survive any long period of time.

    Looks like the usual 'make it bigger and shallower!' approach, like Skyrim.
     
  9. Kremin

    Kremin It Wandered In From the Wastes

    187
    Jun 10, 2016
    I could see them working it in somehow, with half of the game on the surface and the other half underground.

    Reminds me of the books, idk if they'll do it but it looks like they might pull off a continuation of them.
     
  10. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    I know that the books depict the surface being okay, but to me, ignoring the previous games is just shitting on them.

    They already fucked up Last Light's DLC...
     
  11. Kremin

    Kremin It Wandered In From the Wastes

    187
    Jun 10, 2016
    They had a neat little concept with one of the DLCs. The one where you had to go out and look for all these items and whatnot. The whole idea of it was alright but I didn't like the execution. The DLCs were really weak compared to the game, I really expected something more.
     
  12. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    IIRC that was the DLC with the 'lulz your dead' radiation and giant fucking monsters, right?

    I think that considering you need to wear a giant bulky hazmat suit just to live a bit out there, means its not viable.
     
  13. NovaRain

    NovaRain Casual Modder Modder

    Mar 10, 2007
    Well, honestly it's kinda OK for me. A modder can release free mods on Nexus and at the same time being a "creator" in Bethesda's Creator Club to make outsourced Horse Armor™ DLCs.
    I think the concern of many people is if a modder won't release free mods anymore after he/she signed the contract of Creator Club.
     
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  14. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Actually that's Moscow's surface.

    The newest book have established that the surface beyond the city of Moscow itself is not as radioactive as Moscow and one could establish such a notion in the games without harming the established notions of the games (i.e outside Moscow, or major cities, not radioactive but a lot of hostile fauna and radiation hot-spots like Fallout - actual Fallout, not Bethesda's while the surface of Moscow is still a hot-zone). Exodus would not hurt the depiction of the surface in Moscow.

    Plus no one wants to leave the Metro since the surviving pre-war government is tricking the populace in the Metro that no one else alive outside Moscow and that surviving hostile nations are still aimming their nukes at Moscow. So there's one way to explain why no one else would want to leave the Metro in the games with such a revelation. Though I am not sure if they will use that for Exodus since the games are not direct adaptations of the books.

    EDIT: If someone else can correct me, go ahead. I'm working on limited knowledge of 2035's revelations and ending since I don't have the actual book.

    The developers have stated that they will not be going open world, merely that they will mix linear and non-linear levels. It's a thin line that they will have be careful of crossing.:
    https://www.pcgamesn.com/metro-exodus/metro-exodus-isnt-exactly-an-open-world

    I have my skepticism and doubt over the final product but it is something to look forward to, for me at least.
     
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  15. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    954
    Oct 26, 2016
    Gstaff was responding to me on the official forums (seems to me he only rears his head when he needs to do damage control for PR disasters).

    He literally said "we don't like to call it paid mods around here at the office." The forums are hung up on semantics and it's ridiculous.
     
  16. AgentBJ09

    AgentBJ09 A Smooth-Skin

    697
    Jul 9, 2015
    And with their record, we know what that means.

    The mainstream audience is catching on, but they've yet to be burned outright by something like Fallout 3, or in my case Skyrim, that'll make them see what Bethesda Softworks really is, under Zenimax or not.

    That's a bullshit way of doing this kind of thing, and I hope enough modders see what they'll lose by saying Yes to this.

    Not like it's helping. That Creators Club video has soared to over 40,000 dislikes versus maybe 3,000 likes, which is a good sign overall.
     
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  17. 3160b0

    3160b0 First time out of the vault

    25
    Dec 16, 2015
    Copyright is automatic in the 172 countries that recognize the Berne Convention, and it's optional to mark any work as being copyrighted in the states. You'd only need to mark your work if you planned on giving preemptive blanket permission to use it, like with a GPL license, otherwise it's illegal to resell someone else's work without approval first.

    But Bethesda has lawyers and hobbyists don't, so copyright claims will never make it far enough to matter. I imagine the worst that will happen is the newly sourced, heavily underpaid freelancers Bethesda is calling community modders will be dropped from the contract and the mod (microtransaction dlc) removed, with any money from the sales sitting pretty in Bethesda's account.
     
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  18. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Well they are already filtering the moneyflow by using their Bethesda coins, and seeing the way they price their games on Steam in LatAm I am guessing the exchange rate is gonna be borked to shit. And we know how the treat contractors with the whole "losing your bonus because of 1 Metacritic point" debacle with Obsidian.
     
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  19. Supreme Shah Ismail

    Supreme Shah Ismail Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    422
    Sep 17, 2016
    So what interested me: Dishonored 2 dlc, Evil Within 2, Wolfenstien 2, Middle Earth Shadow of War, God of War (never intersted me prior but norse mythology is way cooler and less saturated than greek mythology), XCOM 2 Expansion and the new Metro.

    Might of missed a few things. But the rest was kinda meh or I simply didn't have the system for it. (xcom-mario looks kinda cool)
     
  20. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    I can't wait to 'obtain' the Xcom 2 dlc!