Fallout Nuka World DLC trailer and information are online

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by The Dutch Ghost, Aug 15, 2016.

  1. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Was it? Or only since Bethesda decided that pre-war america was such a huge thing to highlight in the series? Point is, when you look at Fallout 1 and Fallout 2, how much of a role had the pre-war world of Fallout in the setting really? I would argue it was only miniscule, like the background, I don't think it was ever meant to be a focal point of the series. I also liked that most of the history in Fallout, was really just a mystery, ruins for the player to explore, if he so wished. But what made Fallout interesting for me, was the interaction with the NPCs and some of the factions. I would prefer a character like Lynette, the Khans or the NPCs in Navarro over 10 Nuka Cola explore-another-thing-of-the-past! scenarios.
     
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  2. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    Yea I really don't care one way or the other about this new DLC because for me the bottom line is that there is no way this DLC makes me want to reinstall the game either way. 1 DLC isn't saving what was otherwise my most disappointing game of all time. I have a feeling they will shoehorn in all these silly recurring characters with future Fallouts. Liberty Prime and Sierra will make appearances in Fallout: Antarctica somehow.

    The consensus seems to be that its better than the rest of Fallout 4, but then again what isn't?

    There's too many other games that are actually good and have good writing out right now. Deus Ex is coming out, there's a new Civilization, there's all those indie RPGs like Underrail and Age of Decadence, and so many others. Why would I want to reinstall Fallout 4 just to remind myself what bad dialogue wheels and writing look like and to be made High King of the Raiders in the first 2 minutes so I can make them play with zany, wacky goldberg machines I crafted in what is allegedly an RPG?
     
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  3. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    It's like someone gave you a turd with sugar sprinkles. Sure the sprinkles might be good, but it still is a turd.
     
  4. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    At least you're acknowledging the possibility of it being unintended though it does seem like you're filling in the blanks here for Bethesda though by bringing up Coca-Cola's deeds, no offense intended.

    I still think there are ways to play out the story of Nuka World without bringing in the military thing. Maybe have a military listening station that was decently stocked or (if they want to go with the paranoia-filled world and keep the mad science thing), make Nuka World into a death-trap ala Sierra Madre where scientists (from any other scientific organisation) ran their own mad experiments in secret (though not to the point where people died regularly but enough to produce chemicals Nuka Cola wound up using in their drinks). There are ways to make a story here without resorting to the rather goofy "military contracts Nuka Cola to make nukes for them and Nuka Cola being so good at it simply because they are great chemists".

    Food chemistry is still different than nuclear science, so it's iffy for me to believe that food chemists can suddenly become mad nuclear scientists since I doubt the sciences between the two schools intersect frequently (If you think it's alright, you'll get no grievances from me contrary to my tone. I doubt you'd change my minds here and I doubt I'll change your mind so we'll agree to disagree here).
     
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  5. Risewild

    Risewild Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    Mods couldn't do it for Skyrim for me. I doubt they can for Fallout 4 which is a way more boring game (again for me). Has more modding restrictions and it is just nonsensical in many parts not to mention it just throws out at me whatever the devs thought it was cool.

    Also it was mentioned that in this Nuka World DLC there is an invincible/invulnerable power armor that is attached to the bumper cars electric grid and we need to use the squirt gun to throw water at it so we can deal damage? This is what a (I assume) boss battle comes to? What is this, some jRPG where the boss keeps getting invulnerable until you use a specific switch/item/ability/elemental damage on it? :facepalm:


    Bethesda's Boss Battle:
    • Use a toy squirt gun to throw water at the boss so you can deal damage
    Any decent RPG developers:
    • Use your repair and/or science skill to disable the power supply before the battle
    • Use your repair and/or science to detect the weak spot and/or disable/weaken the Power Armor
    • Use your speech skill to convince/bluff/intimidate the boss to give up
    • Use EMP weaponry to deal damage over the electric "shield"
    • Use your weapon or explosive skill to shoot or explode or something else the cable connecting the Power Armor to the electric grid
    • I don't know, I am not a decent RPG developer, but... Maybe use your intelligence to move away from the bumper car place... If the Power Armor leaves it will not have the grid and will be vulnerable?
     
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  6. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    Isn't all PAs in FO4 like this? Seriously, outside of radiation protection, it's useless.
     
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  7. Hardboiled Android

    Hardboiled Android A Smooth-Skin

    637
    Jun 7, 2015
    What? I'm not filling in the details, I'm outright saying it's unintended.
     
  8. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    It's started long before when Nuca Cola started being compared with Coca-Cola, tbh. So it's someone else to blame...
     
  9. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Ah, my mistake then.

    All this is making me think that every corporation in the East Coast of Bethesda's Fallout games is all about evil 'lulz' and being cartoonishly diabolical for no apparent reason.
     
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  10. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    To their credit, it's aknowledged somewhere in holotapes that there's war outside, so for Nuca Cola it is legit behavior.
     
  11. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    And I really hate that, selfish or amoral is one thing but now all major corporations are slowly tied into US secret weapons research and development/war effort.

    As other posters here already mentioned, Fallout 3 and 4 focuses so much on the Pre War world and barely establishes anything Post War world, other than a handful of settlements and some NPCs that have goals that have nothing to do with going through Pre War locations.

    The appeal of Fallout 1 and 2 is that the old world was this big mystery, we barely knew anything of what it was like other than increasing militarism and tensions due to a resource crisis and a final great war that wiped out what was left of organized society/civilization.
    There were only sporadic sources of information and of course encounters with some of the worst remnants of the old world such as the Master and his Super Mutants and the vats from which they originated, and the Enclave who gave us a peek at the mentality of the leadership and the well off before the war.

    I know a mystery can never be kept forever (then there should not be more Fallout games for example) but it can be revealed more and more in good involving way and just plain bluntly.

    We get it now, almost everyone above middle class citizens was in general evil.
     
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  12. Deeves

    Deeves Well, he went a little funny in the head . . .

    96
    Jan 21, 2016
    Are we not going to talk about how the Dlc is just fetch lists?

    In the opening thirty minutes I've been told to;

    Find 9 secret cappys

    Find and talk to the top bosses in Nuka World

    Find Nuka Medallions

    Find and capture flags in every park and hand them into a raider gang.

    Find 35 (!!!) Star Cores

    Its just busywork and padding for days and days.
     
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  13. Shardik

    Shardik Still Mildly Glowing

    291
    Nov 5, 2015
    Looks like Bethesda QA/QC strikes again!

    They just released a new 2.3 GB patch, 1.7, for PC and XBone to "fix bugs" and prep the game for Nuka World. It seems, though, that for a bunch of people the patch uninstalls the Vault Tec Workshop DLC and forces you to purchase it again, even if you bought the Season Pass. Which means that anyone who had previously installed the DLC and played with it enabled can't load their saves.

    https://community.bethesda.net/community/fallout/fallout-4/fallout-4-discussion/content?filterID=contentstatus[published]~objecttype~objecttype[thread]

    Bethesda, of course has responded with the usual "We're looking into it and will let you know real soon!" line. IOW, maybe they'll start looking into it sometime Monday.
     
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  14. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    Offline-MMO.
     
  15. Brivoo

    Brivoo Powered by Radiant AI

    384
    Jan 20, 2016
    Yes, but they're not nuclear scientists. Even accounting for Quantum and Quartz, all they need to factor in is how they can balance the isotope to make the drink glow and not kill their clientele.

    Aye, but the story isn't about the Nuka Cola brand throwing its weight around to benefit their governmental buddies, it's about a company that has no qualifications in nuclear physics developing nuclear armaments for the military who in return provide them with their most valuable weapon against a current enemy they know has infiltrated their society to parade around for sponsorship purposes.

    I agree that Coca Cola is the most recognizable brand of capitalism in the world, but the story presented to us isn't about capitalism, it's a disjointed series of explanations for the things we see in the park inexpertly strung together to provide a half-hearted justification.
     
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  16. Shardik

    Shardik Still Mildly Glowing

    291
    Nov 5, 2015
    At this point they may as well just make it a real MMO. Put Shitbryo out to pasture for good, grab the Elder Scrolls Online engine and just go to town. Forget about trying to make any kind of story (which would actually be something of a relief) and center the entire thing around taking Radiant NPC quests to grind levels and scavenge weapons and junk to build your Rube Goldberg contraptions and settlements, and then lead PvP raids against other players' settlements.

    Beth's new fans would be absolutely ecstatic.
     
  17. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Ties to CIA is the same as building nuclear weapons. Don't you guys know anything about politics >(!
     
  18. Brivoo

    Brivoo Powered by Radiant AI

    384
    Jan 20, 2016
    He's coming at us reasonably and with an argument he's clearly thought out. Let's not simply dismiss anyone who wants to defend Fallout 4 out of hand lest we become the people we so love to criticize.
     
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  19. lolpop109

    lolpop109 Water Chip? Been There, Done That
    Modder

    839
    Jul 14, 2016
    Yeah What i would say that it does actually come across as being quite generic
     
  20. Deeves

    Deeves Well, he went a little funny in the head . . .

    96
    Jan 21, 2016
    Awww, man, you guys. I just came across the most pitiful thing. :'(

    In kiddie land that magician ghoul in the trailer is taunting you as you go though his crazy fun house of death (Cliche). You get to a point where it's supposed to mirror room maze - except it's all clear glass.And then the ghoul goes on the intercom and says, "apologies for the mirrors, they don't reflect as well after all this time. hehehe"

    An NPC just tried to apologize for the engine not being able to handle mirrors.

    Sad.
     
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