Fallout: The Frontier - Released!

yeah it's a pretty good mod. nothing in there really feels out of place and is trying to sell an agenda. i'm not goanna let mike being stupid by defending the frontier change that.

 

Remember when the biggest controversy The Frontier had was Dragbody having the same name as a neo Nazi.

 

I bet they wish that was the only controversy they and this mod had. Then most of the lead devs and writers were discovered to be pedophiles, ephebophiles, zoophiles and perverts who have a bad case of yellow fever.

 

I've still been waiting for some people from the Project: Tamriel or Tamriel Rebuilt teams in the Morrowind modding scene branch out and take on New Vegas, it's clearly a very influential game in both projects.

 

i'm kind of sad that two major disappointments have made everyone think all mods are bad. just read the comments on 4 decent friend's coverage on new california.

some are even blaming fallout 2 for new california and the frontier.

 

If they want to finish their projects this decade, they probably shouldn't branch out.

 

What I don't understand is how are you going to look at a mod that earnestly claims to be as fun and compelling at the base game and not expect that project to end in anything other than disappointment?

 

Fallout 2 is very hit or miss with the OG fanbase. A lot of it had to do with the whacky content. However, Fallout 2 did do some things well like New Reno which does receive praise from the fanbase. I don't know why Fallout 2 is given so much heat while Old World Blues is filled to the brim with over the top and whacky content yet many consider it to be the best New Vegas dlc.
Also, I wouldn't blame Fallout 2 for the mess that was the Frontier or New California. As fellow moddder Keylancer from the Nexus has told me; "A lot of these big project modders never played the OG Fallout's or understood New Vegas. Most were TES players that got their start in Fallout with Fallout 3."
He is right on this. The Frontier devs hated New Vegas and the OG Fallout's and originally wanted to make their mod be for Fallout 3 but the New Vegas Geck and engine are easier to work with. The New California dev originally had his mod be for Fallout 3 but moved to New Vegas as, again, the New Vegas Geck was easier to work with. Also, judging from his knowledge of the series, I can surmise that the New California dev probably also didn't play the OG Fallout's and just read articles about the games from the Fallout Wiki.

 

Pretty sure Skyblivion is supposed to be done soon. Maybe this year sometime, I think?

 

Fallout 2 is random with it's wacky stuff- one city has a ghost, another a talking plant and an intelligent radscorpion, Supermutant magician resides in the MMB summoning deathclaws, cult that is almost 1:1 parody of Scientology, good karate master dueling evil karate master etc.

Old World Blues isn't my favourite, but it feels consistent with it's wacky stuff. Here's a bunch of scientists that spent centuries running demented experiments and lost their humanity.

Klein yells about PC's penis fingers, Dahla masturbates to PC breathing and Borous recreated his high school to get back at his bullies. All these fit OWB.

 

yeah owb is alot more consistent with what it's trying to do humor wise. and there is a hint of sadness with the think tank when you realize they are clearly insane.

 

When you put it that way, maybe OWB was what Fallout 2 could have been if they had more time and more people around to put some restraint on the writers in order to make the wackiness in the game more consistent.

 

Considering the ending slide has the narrator confuse Hopeville for the Divide itself, I can believe this.

 

and theres also that whole thing about you getting caught in the blast when the divide exploded.

 

What I find odd is people are willing to spend literal days working on a mod, but are unwilling to do research on the lore.

 

some do. then you get people claiming they break lore anyway.

like i remember people complaining in th3overseer's depths of depravity mod that the ncr had functioning trucks. when that's in the base game.

 

I remember telling somebody that and they had a little mini-stroke.