General Discussion Thread of DOOM

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by TorontoReign, Jan 3, 2015.

  1. SnapSlav

    SnapSlav NMA's local DotA fanatic

    Jul 1, 2012
    First time I drank alcohol I was like 8 or maybe even younger, and it was a sip of beer from my dad to demonstrate what it was he was drinking. It was also a clever way to convince his son to stay the hell away from alcohol for many years, because the sip wasn't enough to do anything to me but was MORE than enough for my taste buds to tell me "this is disgusting, I do not like it!" The next time I had alcohol was a few glasses of REALLY good champagne when I was 19. But the first time I got drunk (and subsequently, the last time I got hammered and had a terrible hangover) I was 20. I loved the ride to the top, hated the time spent on the bottom crawling my way back up to level.

    In the decade since, I've learned many tricks to being able to go longer with alcohol without suffering the ill affects the next day, but I keep my drinking to social events. If I gotta go see family I REALLY want nothing to do with, I'll grab a few beers. If I'm in a new place meeting new people, some liquor will help me unwind and be a bit social. On rare occasion, if a particular spot in a game is really causing me frustration, I'll take a couple shots of something hard (I prefer sljivovica, vodka, whiskey, or tequila) so I can get a buzz, and I'll pop a few more shots to maintain said buzz if needs be- and apparently I make for a BETTER gamer when I'm drunk! But contrary to the concerns of my family, I hardly ever drink. My Great Uncle died of liver failure from cirrhosis because of his heavy drinking (he was just a set-in-his-ways old timer of a slav, and they DRANK), which helped reinforce the lesson of moderation in me. But somehow his other relatives, like my mother, took the lesson of being overly frightened of any alcohol consumption. *shrug*

    From that first day I got drunk, I've learned that I can hold my liquor "better than average", and on those occasions I oblige, I enjoy it. I see nothing wrong with a responsible habit. I also learned to shake off the pretentious douchiness against indulgers of Mary Jane over the years, and even softened towards more serious chemical addictions. Doesn't mean I support the habit, just that I've learned it's not some devil-sent crutch to climb up on a high horse over. Hell, an increasing incidence of chronic headaches and migraines has even led me to consider exploring medical cannabis for relief. The funny thing is, when I tell some family "I gave up beer", they too-quickly rush to get all congratulatory on me, like I've conquered the devil, when in reality I'm trying to tell them that I'm sticking to hard liquors, cause I wanna avoid unnecessary calories and I just don't care for beer getting me to the same place over a longer period of time. But they're too up their asses to realize what I'm telling them. XD

    But my biggest vice is, without a doubt, the games. I just can't get enough of em.
     
  2. mef

    mef Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Dec 29, 2014
    alcohol is my vice, but i don't hold my liquor well, so it's not a health-threatening problem. i hate beer and i'm not big into champagne and all those fancy stuff.
     
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  3. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    Hmm, vices... I don't smoke or do drugs, but I do drink. Sometimes a lot, but I have some sort of control.
    I drink alone, mostly. I also drink when I have company, but depending on the quality of the mentioned company, it can be a rather awful experience - people who get drunk in order to get attention are fucking annoying, and I know plenty of those. Me, I just drink because it relaxes me at the end of the day. Helps me unwind, as Toront says. I don't drink much, my usual preference are several "dunkels" in a row, late in the evening, several times a week. I have a whole little ritual concerning it... It is somewhat expensive, since dark beer is not that cheap and my budget is limited, but I manage.

    Other than that...procrastination. Naturally.
    I guess I'm also in collecting stuff - vinyls, models, books, video games etc. It's nothing "bad", but it's hellishly expensive, especially for a shithole I live in, so collecting all this stuff can be considered an unwanted, irrational luxury.

    I pretty much avoid anything else. I never got into smoking, and I avoid drugs - there are several types of drugs I'd like to try out, but I have no way of acquiring those. At least not stuff that's of decent quality, and I don't aim to poison myself with some low grade shit. And I freely admit, I have a certain dose of reserve and fear concerning drugs - on one hand, my levels of self-control are not that high and falling into addiction when I'm at hard times is not impossible - on the other, I've seen too many friends and acquaintances of mine ruin their lives with narcotics, which is a highly deterring factor.
    I don't have anything against drugs though. It's just another chemical, much like alcohol - if someone likes it, go ahead. Just don't force it upon anyone.
     
  4. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Мутанты не допускаются

    Nov 22, 2009
    I drink mostly on big celebrations like new year's eve, very little or none at all otherwise. This new years was interesting, nothing bad happened but I was pretty sauced up. Went to see the fireworks, some crazy folks threw their own fireworks around, huge booms went on. Organizers of the official fireworks were shouting to a microphone to get people to stop doing that. Then drank my stash of beers and ciders and went to the bars. Some lady told me I look like Clark Kent without the glasses. Had a long way home too but somehow I made it.
     
  5. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Moonshine is such a devil.
    Here alcohol is taxed 60%, another "babysitting"-idea from the gvt. It's supposed to make us binge-drink less, but we have big salaries, so fuck everything and binge-drink more.
    Anyway, moonshining is an inevitable result of such antics, and it is such a dangerous thing to drink... :D

    Last time I had it, I drunk it as "Karsk", moonshine+coffee, roughly 50/50 mix. Very redneckish, and almost a national drink in my region. Makes you cooky, with the alcohol fumes, the caffeine and such. A friend I rarely ever talk to, but we have the ability to bring the devil out in each others. We brought the moonshine with us, sipped on our way to the city.
    Went to a little intimate bar, with some guitar-guy singing his heart out, on acoustic, with a small audience.
    We bought beers, and "discretely" spiked them w our brought booze.
    We turned into monsters.
    Every song the poor lad finished, we would stand up and scream "AGAIN! AGAIN!" while making nipple-rubbing gestures and stuff.
    It's a wonder nobody decided to punish us, we woulda been helpless to defend ourselves.
     
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  6. Gonzalez

    Gonzalez Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2004
    Adding to the general randomness of this thread. Yesterday at work I had a "I've seen this in a movie" deja vu moments. This is in our little "guard room" where I'm currently posted, this is the exact view I had at the moment, forget about the other objects as if they weren't thre and focus at the caledar. Have you guessed the movie yet?

    Yeah, I know, it's the result of an extreme and acute case of boredom, just tought I'd share.
     

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  7. Ilosar

    Ilosar Vault Fossil

    Apr 20, 2010
    I drink mostly in moderation, almost always 4-5 beers or glasses of wine/liquor max, and pretty much only socially. One does not spend 5 years in university without engaging in vices of various flavor, but really apart from smoking weed once in a while (ciggies disgust me) and drinking beer 2-3 times per week apart from the occasional party it's never been extreme. We did do some stupid pranks and stuff like that, but we didn't need to be drunk to have stupid and/or hilarious ideas.

    There was this one time, after a rather shitty event happened in my family, where I got absolutely shitfaced. I don't remember most of the party but I know I was vomitting barely an hour in. It wasn't exactly an inspiring display, to hear my friends tell it. But I still felt better after the fact and got a lot of hilarious pictures out of it, so it was worth I say. I can barely tolerate whiskey since that day however, and the very smell of Jameson almost makes me retch now. My body did not appreciate that one.
     
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  8. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    At one point about a year and a bit ago now, I pondered how far I was willing to change to a healthier diet. I was drinking and eating the usual stuff at that point. Soda, chips, and other assorted snacks. I figured, eating unhealthily is dumb. And if there's one thing I want to seem to be, it's smart. So obviously the opposite route is the one for me. I immediately stopped eating most snacks, exclusively drink water or tea since, started to exercise a bit more, and eat more veggies, rice, etc. Rather than eat healthy things that taste good, I forced myself to no longer look at food as enjoyment. I simply switched priorities from the taste of the food to the effect of the food.

    Besides that I've never drank or smoked. Both were easy to avoid, and not drinking is just in my nature. My mother smoked quite a bit, years ago, and I once got very confused as to why someone would stick a burning thing in their mouth. I asked to try it. One puff and I nearly threw up, which made me hate the things. Not because of the experience as much as the idea that someone would not take that as a sign that whatever taste or chemicals in this thing that have a positive effect, regardless of the tabacco, the act of inhaling smoke is in and of itself idiotic. Even weed I've never done, even though I'm interested in the effects. I'd simply have to find a way of doing it that doesn't include smoking, and I simply can't be bothered to find or pay for anything like that, even as a dutchman.

    As I said, drinking goes against my nature. It seems people drink because it's a social lubricant and because of the taste once you get into alcoholic beverages. Well good drinks I can get elsewhere, and I'm naturally a-social. So it's no use to me. And I really mean it, that I'm a-social. I only have 3 or 4 real friends and I can go weeks without going to see anyone in my free time, or others going to see me. No matter how lonely I get I always have a deep sated need to be alone quite constantly.

    But yeah, I don't do drinking, but I can see the appeal. The human liver has evolved to handle it, anyway. Smoking is the thing I don't get.
     
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  9. The Dopamine Cleric

    The Dopamine Cleric ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ Orderite

    Nov 3, 2007
    Smoking is because it's addictive as shit.



    Here's a brief no bullshit overview of drugs.


     
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  10. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    I started drinking beer regularly when I was 15. The problem is that I always get massive hangovers. Like, really bad. Puking 'til evening. So I try not to get too shitfaced when I go out (rare as it is), which is also a good idea because it takes too much money to get me properly drunk.
    I recently (re)developed a taste for Altbier, for some reason. And scotch. Gotta love a good single malt. I'm also looking for properly good Bourbon, but those are much harder to come by here.
     
  11. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    I had my first *independent sip of alcohol at 15, and a total example of silent peer pressure, I think we all pressured each others, circularily, silently, we all sat there sipping, nobody enjoyed it much, and nobody got drunk

    I never had the big hangover problem, and always wondered what it felt like (imagine that!) like the headache etc, never had it. I did once wake up with my bed full of red wine. I had been vomiting in my sleep. My mother asked me if I had been drinking, and laying IN my wine-soaked bed, I managed to do my very best, and say "nnnoooo? O: ???"

    *not counting sips of beer and wine offered by my parents, to put me off it :D
     
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  12. Cyberfiend

    Cyberfiend First time out of the vault

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    Mar 20, 2014
    Can't stand beer, or lager, or anything that tastes overtly yeasty.

    Vodka and Southern Comfort on the other hand? Haha, yeah. I like to my drink on maybe a little too much.
     
  13. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Knight Rider oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    How many of you are on prescription medications? I know if I didn't drink or smoke I would need pills so I wouldn't go crazy. :V
     
  14. Ceratisa

    Ceratisa Sarcastic SOB

    228
    Nov 4, 2013
    Wait is that directed at me? I'm in my twenties.
     
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  15. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    not the physical age!
     
  16. Gonzalez

    Gonzalez Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2004
    I face reality every day, includng the hard philosophical fundamental questions in life, with a sober and clear mind. Are you guys telling me that I'm one of the few brave?
     
  17. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Knight Rider oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    It meant I haven't been free of drugs since 12 years old, in one way or the other.
     
  18. Ceratisa

    Ceratisa Sarcastic SOB

    228
    Nov 4, 2013
    I know right, it's like we are the weird ones.
     
  19. TheWesDude

    TheWesDude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 25, 2005
    i have several drinks a year.

    most i ever do in a day is maybe a 6 pack of apple cider ale or something.

    i did just pass my Sec+ test. as a celebration i am going to buy the mixings for B-52s. will probably cost me like $110-130 for the 3 bottles in total.


    i had my first drink when i was like 6 or 7, and had maybe 2-3 drinks a year after that. when i turned like 20 i decided it was time to compile a list. what i did was walk around to people i knew who had been drinking for a while and told them to give me 2-3 suggestions for drinks to try sometime. plus when i do go out, i typically buy a B-52, maybe a long island ice tea, and then if i keep going i just tell the bartender to surprise me. had some tasty drinks in my life, but i keep going back to the B-52.

    i have only really had 1 hangover, and it was one time for new years where i was drinking my typical fifth of baccardi 151, but i forgot to intersperse it with water. when you have a hangover it is actually your brain being dehydrated. so i always have some water when i drink and i dont get hangovers. and always make sure that before i go to bed i drink a big glass of water.
     
  20. Ilosar

    Ilosar Vault Fossil

    Apr 20, 2010
    I suppose I'm less sober than you are, but I never felt that I needed drink/drugs/etc. apart from that one time I mentionned. When things are tough, I go take a stroll, hang out with a friend who I know will listen to me, listen to quiet music or (if its winter mostly) play a relaxing game. Celebrations are more worthy of drinking alcohol to me.

    I know someone who only smokes ''when he's stressed''. Thing is, he's working at a nearly 70 hours per week management job, so he still burns through a pack a day most days. While I won't say what ciggies can or can't do for your immediate mental health since I never smoked any, I'm pretty sure the intense stress + 1 pack per day combination isn't good on the long term in the least.