General Discussion Thread of DOOM

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by TorontoReign, Jan 3, 2015.

  1. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Mirrored? What are you even talking about? I didn't mirror anything.... I am gonna REDO the shading ny hand.
     
  2. SnapSlav

    SnapSlav NMA's local DotA fanatic

    Jul 1, 2012
    Re-read what I said, because I could not be more clear, but you definitely did not UNDERSTAND what I said.
     
  3. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I said I was gonna redo the shading and you for some reason started telling me to mirror shit on top of each other. Why?
    I have no idea why you feel like you need to explain to me that the COLOR AND FACIAL FEATURES OF THE DRAWING I JUST DID are different. Dude, I drew it, I intentionally canged the features to something different with my hand. Are you seriously that full of yourself?

    The linework and color are better on the new one. The facial features are also much more solid and I actively worked towards changing her face because I felt like she looked like a weird goat on the other one. The shading and the quick highlights ruined it a bit but I just worked on redoing them and got rid of a couple of lines that aged her a bit. Furthermore the new one is less animu than the other one. I mean seriously, if you think the color on the right one looks better you gotta be blind.
    Not to mention that the new one has better anatomy.

     

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  4. SnapSlav

    SnapSlav NMA's local DotA fanatic

    Jul 1, 2012
    The fact you just said that so sincerely reminds me why I do not like you.

    And yet again, you totally misunderstood anything I tried to say. Whatever... there's no point trying to help someone who's unwilling and unreceptive to the concept of it.
     
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  5. BigBawss

    BigBawss Wizard of the Hood

    110
    Aug 22, 2015
    :rofl: Walp IS a little bit of a dick. He's can be funny and entertaining some times though.
     
  6. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Walpknut and SnapSlav fighting. Battle of the condescending, pompous titans. Hilarious, please, do carry on!
     
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  7. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I am not pompous, I am only condescending.
     
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  8. BigBawss

    BigBawss Wizard of the Hood

    110
    Aug 22, 2015
    You kinda are a bit pompous. But then again, you always know best!
     
  9. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    NMA provides a bonus to pompousness for veterans. It's a bonus this faction provides, along with extra virginity defence. I am now a 2 year member of the RPGcodex also. My stats are so imba.
     
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  10. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    You guys are awesome. What would I do without this place.

    Probably browsing another forum and spaming shit over there.
     
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  11. SnapSlav

    SnapSlav NMA's local DotA fanatic

    Jul 1, 2012
    Another spectator who doesn't know the kettle's calling while he declares the pot black. Please, why don't you entertain us with more of your accusations born of sardony because you have no judge of character?

    I just have no interest in so-called "artists" who go apeshit when constructive feedback of their work is granted to them. I suppose he never asked for it in the first place, which is even worse, then. Because calling me full of myself while denying any form of help is just another case of self-oblivious hypocrisy, which I simply have no patience for. Nothing I did was mean or arrogant in the slightest... I was only trying to help, and that resulted in a hissy fit, to which I decided it wasn't worth engaging in further.

    I can EASILY remember a time that this instance reminded me of, where I drew up a couple quick sketches of a character, and asked the people around me what they think. At least one of them was another artist, so these weren't "pleb" opinions. Despite my feeling that the second sketch had more time and effort put into it and was the "more refined" image, EVERYONE universally loved the first sketch. It wasn't because they "had no taste" or some ego-preserving bullshit like that, but because, contrary to what you might believe, toiling away at an image does NOT automatically make it better. The fact was, the first image had a better composition. Even though it was messy, even though there were guide lines that couldn't be erased (it was an ink sketch), even though I perceived it to be "ugly" in certain respects, even though my perfectionism was screaming at me for allowing that thing to exist... it WAS the better looking of the two. The character just had a dynamic to the angles of the face and the forced perspective of his glance, and (by some accident) the ink lines were also more uneven and gave more weight to the image. Yet that one was the "practice" sketch, and the one I'd HOPED to be more liked was the universally less appreciated. So, this situation was all-too familiar for me, and I had the ability to explain why thee things turn out the way they are, unlike some who lack the basic understanding of what makes a composition shine, much less arbitrate on the matter.

    But I'm sure, because SOME people have petty vendettas, they can misconstrue my input to somehow be [insert negative adjectives] of me, right Hassknecht?
     
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  12. Beaushizzle

    Beaushizzle Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    328
    Aug 3, 2015
    Settle down, girls. Also, I agree that the one on the right looks better. The one on the left looks somewhat alien-ish.
     
  13. SnapSlav

    SnapSlav NMA's local DotA fanatic

    Jul 1, 2012
    A totally unnecessary intervention, but no harm no foul... with the exception of calling all participating parties "girls". That was an uncalled for slight. Not everyone in a scuffle is the bad guy. Sometimes there are no winning parties, sometimes there are. There's no point in belittling everyone simply because you'd rather not pick a side. You can always just not get involved at all. That's the best choice, I'd say.

    I wouldn't say I understand what you mean by calling it "alien-ish". I just know that, despite clearly being the quicker work, the right image was still the vastly more appearling image. Like I expressed in my anecdotal recollection of when it happened with me, it's the simple (if hard to pinpoint, and arguably impossible to plan) matter of composition having way more impact than all the work and effort put into polishing. Reminds me of a time, a decade ago, when I was taking art classes at university, and we had to submit a blown up image of our faces as part of an assignment, and I screwed up and the print I made was cropped totally unintentionally because the computer or printer or something along the line tried to split the image into 4 pieces, then print them on 4 separate piece of paper, with one of the pages keeping the majority of my face, 2 of them holding a small side of my headshot, and the 4th having practically nothing at all. So, naturally, I submitted the one page that had most of my face... but heavily cropped, cause of the screw up. It was WILDLY praised because the cropping made the image look more dynamic and "posed" rather than a straight up, centered headshot. I didn't intend for it to come out that way at all, but it ended up looking much better as a result.

    Moral of the story (that some people can't seem to understand) is that not all wonderful works are intentional. Sometimes they're happy accidents. Consequently, more hours doesn't mean a thing will look better. As the saying goes, "You can't shine a shit"**. The composition determines everything, at the end of the day. Great composition, even without all the polish, is still a great composition.

    **Yes, I know about Mythbusters tackling that and ACTUALLY polishing balls of excrement. I just mean the adage and what it refers to; the notion of polishing a turd only gets you... a polished turd.
     
  14. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Every time I witness footage of moon landing activity, be it bouncing around, rovering, golfing, I am amazed at the strange, alien physics at work, like how the dust moves and behaves like water being splashed, due to the lack of air friction, or the (often exaggerated in movies) lessened gravity affecting the astronauts, it is amazing!

    Then people go "dats faek u know :0"

    Oh, the slap cannot be loud enough
    There is no slap... loud enough...

    There is no font big enough to represent the loudness of the slap...

    I just cant...
     
  15. Beaushizzle

    Beaushizzle Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    328
    Aug 3, 2015
    As loud as a fap slap while watching a lady's gap to music defined as rap while the old lady is getting a smear for her pap? All while eating Cheetos from your lap while having a little nightcap?
     
  16. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Okay guys I have some questions that only people that lived in the US in 1998 can answer me.
    I am still writting my comic script and I need to get some small details cleared out that I can't find with Google.

    -What songs would play in a radio station on January 1st 1999 as the new year hits? Maybe specific groups or a song that was a hit in 1998 in the US? I am looking for cheesy pop if possible (for a scene).
    -Anyone here has any direct experience with farming communities in the US? I myself have direct involvement with that but I am not sure how similar they are as I am aware that US farms tend to be much more industrialized than Latin American Ones.
    -What drugs ran in the club scene in the late 90's?
    -How well does Motrocycle issue Body Armor protect?
    -Common car of a rich teen to have in 1998?
    -How widespread where handicams?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  17. Beaushizzle

    Beaushizzle Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    328
    Aug 3, 2015
    Without being super in depth, big bands from late 90s early 2000s: N*Sync, Kylie minogue, matchbox 20, No Doubt, Avril Lavigne, Will Smith.
    Drugs: extasy, cocaine, meth, weed
    Common rich kid car: ford Mustangs, Chevy corvette and camaro, and rice burners like Honda civics (modified)
    Handicams? What is a handicam? Seriously, I don't know.
     
  18. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    A protable video recorder.
     
  19. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    Am I not just the most respectable citizen?

    I respect you as a person, and the opinion you hold.

    Peace on earth.

    Group hug!
     
  20. SnapSlav

    SnapSlav NMA's local DotA fanatic

    Jul 1, 2012
    In early '99, Linkin Park started becoming really huge with the younger crowd at the time. NONE of the groups Beaushizzle mentioned were on anyone's radars by 1999, let alone early 2000. At least not in Southern California high school crowds. Then again, the question was regarding radio stations, not what people were into, and that was the era of Napster and the growing trend of downloading MP3s, not listening to the radio anymore. So it could be tricky to pinpoint what was "popular" at the time. You had your groups who were into older music, and they liked your typical hippy crap, or Metallica, or anything you could think of, really. Oldies still played music from the 40s to 60s back then, so a great many classic songs to choose from could still be heard on that radio station. But Linkin Park was, without question, the next big thing at that time. They really exploded onto the scene in '99.

    Camcorders were seen from time to time if you lived in a spot that was prone to tourists, and seeing someone with one would typically garner the reaction of "Huh, I guess they're on vacation", cause they weren't really all that common, but they weren't unknown, either. If we're talking about school recitals, on the other hand, there would be entire WINGS of audience seating dedicated to proud parents with their own personal recorders.

    Since I neither traveled the club scene nor was I a spoiled rich kid, I can't comment on either of those things. Surprise surprise, if it didn't affect me, even back then, I didn't give a shit about it. Also there's that whole thing where if you were to ask me RIGHT NOW anything about cars, I would have very little to tell you, because I know incredibly little about the brands and models and years and all that. They're all just "cars" to me, and they were even more ambiguous back in the late 90s when I didn't have a driver's license. But I can say that, though I had no personal experience with the club scenes back then, the popular drugs HEAVILY relied on where you lived. If you grew up in well-to-do white towns, you didn't hear much about weed. Meanwhile, there was a considerable crowd of 14-17 year olds at my high school who were already smokers and alcoholics, and they partied quite often, so I wouldn't put it past those two candidates.