General Discussion Thread of DOOM

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by TorontoReign, Jan 3, 2015.

  1. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Speaking about house accidents, I currently have a water leak on the ceiling of my apartment.... I live on the FIRST FLOOR so that means my upstairs neighbours' pipes are leaking onto me.... and I found out in the morning because one of the leaks is right on top of the door of my room, I slipped on the puddle and almost fell if it wasn't for my Land on my ass reflex. I hope it doesn't become a health hazard, we turned off the water on their apartment because they are also out of the country right now. I bet they left some fauce running.... I hope the ceiling doesn't collapse on my head like on a 50's comedy....
  2. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    I often think stuff like that. Just recently, while visiting in Spain, I was chilling in my aunts apartment, having the livingroom to myself after night-time. I watched a movie, and didn't worry much. Then I smoked a joint. Then I heard a noise, like the other 1000 noises I heard before the joint, from the 1000 neighbors, but now that I was high - I immediately thought of the following possibility:
    The apartment complex is from the 70s, or older - in other words, it's one of the many "Franco blocks" - as I call them - go to Spain, and they're everywhere and recognized by their near-identical designs and always-green-balcony blinds

    There's no big secret that during that time there was a lot of corruption. NOW there's a lot of corruption, so... - even more then, I assume. Then I think the crucial part: Nobody who sat inside a building that suddenly collapsed due to neglect and poor structural integrity were ever really aware that their building was counting down the seconds. It just happens.
    I then imagined the whole sequence, complete with news reports in foreign countries, and how I'd just disappear in the rubble, litterally and figuratively, as in they'd say something like "16 dead and 37 wounded" or whatever, and that would be my TV-time.

    (One time, before going to Spain, I sat up watching air crash investigations. That year the first plane had to land back in Oslo, due to a landing-gear malfunction (that obviously worked out by the time they landed... we circled for 2 hours, dumping fuel) and later a bomb-hoax, perpetuated by two stubborn British(?) women who accused a bearded man out of the frickin blue, because he had a beard, and 9/11 was very fresh in mind, only 6-7 years or so. All 3 were escorted out of the plane, after a 3-4 hour delay. This trip I decided not to be a douchebag to myself, and refrained from all disaster-docu watching prior to the flight)
  3. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I did some character stuffs on lunch, todays was a bitch of a day so I had to draw something.
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  4. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    I'm - at this moment - (well, not THIS moment, I'm wasting time with Nostalgia Critic), but more or less this very moment sketching up 8 different character faces, for the n-th time, just to get used to them. That's one of my many plans: Draw the same faces over and over and over... :D
    Interesting to see your drawings, you clearly are much more used to faces, and much more confident drawing expressions.
    I have had too long a hiatus (one of my few regrets in life) and I am still struggling to balance realism and cartoonyness in my faces
  5. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I also did these, it's for the Youtube channel. Muppets. Altho this isn't my Muppet, it's my firend's muppet, mine will have a bigger head and belly.
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  6. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Non Binary Pod Person Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2016
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  7. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Sigh (WARNING "Pro-drug" rant incoming)
    This really frustrates me - but hear me out:
    I smoke, okay, that's not the point - but it kindov is - and I'm getting there - - when I was swamped in social-welfare-whatevs-workers they were throwing every suggestion at me that they could, wether or not it was relevant. We were finally in a meeting with my personal doctor, with the autism expert, with my stepmother (I bring her as moral support, she is very balanced) and a few others. They threw at me "oh, and stop smoking weed" and I told them "and replace it with what, exactly? Booze?" - silence.
    Those motherfuckers... that was what they actually thought I should replace it with - BOOZE!
    I told them - fuck that, and fuck their sense of moral, fuck the law, and fuck all of them - cus THEY "work hard all week" then go RIGHT home and self-medicate with "a glass or two" in the weekend, fuck them, they're Norwegians, it's more like a bottle or three, THEY guzzle coffee all day - I don't!
    Eventually, the autism expert took my side, and told the whole panel to just stop hastling me about it - that I have a good fucking point, that my life sucks on a general basis, and that a bit of weed is MY "weekend", my "relief", and that PRACTICALLY SPEAKING it is much better than me being unemployed, and boozing.
    They did not agree, but they shut their mouths about it, and I am grateful for that. I am still baffled that they STILL felt I should rather end up a liver-less alkie, than break the law a little...

    NOW... I'm a logical guy. I'm a no-bullshit guy. If someone tells me crap, I tell them back. My brother is not very logical. He punches problems, but isn't a very good thinker. He also does not self-medicate like I self-medicate, he goes "WOHOO!" and drugs himself with everything. For years I tried to explain to him - look - cut all that shit out, you KNOW what you can rely on in the end - get a lil high - and make rap beats. He used to do that. We're a creative family, we all have skills, and he does too, and he makes killer beats.

    But they fiiinally got to him... he is now ... drinking. Drinking, drinking and drinking, and he is worse than ever BUT HEY, HE ISN'T BREAKING THE LAW ANYMORE (except when he gets drunk, smashes his whole - WHOLE apartment - beats the fuck out of people, and causes huge hysterical dramas on a monthly basis, but hey, lol, drunk people, amirite ;D)
    He is SO convinced now, he has to convince ME, because of psychology - if he has to live by this - everyone else has to... I don't know what the fffuck they told him in REHAB - but this was how he summarized it to me:
    "Weed tortures your mind - it's horrible torture, even if you never feel tortured, that's what it does! While alcohol, sure, it kills you physically, but what do you prefer - a tortured mind - for life? Or a failing organ that doesn't even hurt - and then death, that doesn't hurt either?"

    THAT... is what he came out of rehab thinking...

    I am so furious...
  8. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Alpharius oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
  9. Juza The Cloud

    Juza The Cloud Nanto Goshasei

    Jun 3, 2015
    Wow those Johnny Bench hands are a bit much
  10. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    I don't mean to be a total downer, but you guys should read about the ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Abkhazia.
    Sounds unfamiliar? Well, it most likely is.
    It is, however, a good eye-opener to how protected populations really are by international law. Really are.
    We thought Rwandans were fucking abandoned, and they were... oh, how they were... not only abandoned, but abandoned with glaring style - abandoned with exclamation marks, "WE ABANDON YOU! YOU UNDERSTAND?" "yes yes, abandon" "ABANDON!" "you dont need to shout" "I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THOUGH, HOW ABANDONED YOU ARE!" "i get it"

    Abkhazia is a tiny tiny country, so tiny, it's much tinier even than Rwanda. SO tiny, it's technically not a country, but a autonomous region of Georgia, a country that allready is tiny. We did hear about Georgia in the news a bit, when Russia invaded it officially. However, Russia has invaded it unofficially in the past.

    With absolutely no world attention, there is no reason to adhere to rules. I mean, the UN was there, but nobody else, and that is part of the problem. Abkhazian militias, aided by Russian cossacks and whatnots, found it necesary to remove all Georgians from their soil, and while doing that, decided to rape and pillage while they were at it.
    Several men taking turns to rape small children, or "play football with decapitated heads" it COULD be mean-spirited propaganda and exaggeration, buuut... something rings true about it. It is... eerily human, in a way...

    This is a small area, with small populations, so... the events weren't in the thousands, like in Rwanda. We're talking "only" a few thousand killed, compared to half a million in Rwanda - but those few thousand, those few days, few locations, they seem like straight out of "Humanity's worst: A comprehensive collection!" (a work I wish someone would compile)
    Basically - anything you can imagine, they could too. Kindov like the Spanish Inquisition!
    The UN made like a long, boring list of pointless resolutions, "Resolution #godknowswhat: Stop playing football with decapitated heads, have some fucking dignity!"

    It also makes me wonder, what the hell is it about war, that makes men want to rape children!? Sigh... Anyway!
    I recommend to read up about it, to thoroughly ruin your day. What? You're gonna read for years on end about WW2 and jew-gassing, but you're going to neglect poor Georgians? What did they ever do to you? Be fair! Systematically read up on ALL atrocities on the planet, it's good for you.

    Next week: 200+ central American immigrants are machinegunned by Los Zetas, just for their own amusement.
  11. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I am drawing this one.
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  12. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    No one has posted since wendesday, can I double Post?
    Just wanted to share more Chicken Scratches.
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  13. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Non Binary Pod Person Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    Doublepost away. This can be your unofficial art thread. :-)

    Looks good. You should take a crack at some Fallout fanart.
  14. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    That's really pretty decent! I like it. Or well, the direction of the style, which reminds me in some way to the art-direction of GTA here and there.
    But, if you want my honest opinion, I feel you should spend more time on drawing anatomy. I hope you don't think I just want to shit on your art. I know that I struggle with a lot of that as well in my drawings.
    But I feel there is a certain weakness in your art, that you should try to eliminate, if possible. Like, I really feel great about how you draw the hands, that's where your style comes trough. Awesome!
    But the necks are really the parts which I dislike the most if I am honest.
    Just my 5 cent of course, from a fellow artist :D
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  15. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    No problem Crni, I am always practicing so it's always a learning process. And hey, someone like how I do the hands, that's progress because hands kicked my ass so much for a long time. To be honest I am not happy with my necks either so iguess that's the next thing to improve, I have mostly focused on body gesture and facial expressions.
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  16. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Very definite style there yes
    I like that you're not completely happy with it - because from here, it looks good. It just helps me feel less obsessive about my own sense of "still a lot of adjustments, practice, design left to do!", my dad keeps telling me I should just start with the comic allready, that I've practiced enough - and I almost get angry, like, dad - stop trying to sabotage my shit, I need *considerably* more practice! :D
    I like watching your progress, you are always a few steps ahead of me with that intuitive sense of anatomy and clothing, for example.

    Yesterday I drew a lesbian kissing and boob-squeezing a not-quite-lesbian, so, that was a first. Just a doodle, really, but yeah - I'm basically having to practice everything... alphabetically :0
  17. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Alpharius oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010

    First girl is kinda problematic to me. On the full body shot of her, the lower part of the right arm up to the wrist looks so unnaturally bent, unlike the left arm. Also, her breasts are kinda weird. I'm not sure if that was the look you were intentionally going for, but they look to me as if someone basically split the coconut in two and glued it to her torso. To me, that's not cool and not sexy.

    Zak is greatly drawn. Really awesome. I just have to ask - did you intentionally make him a left-hander and then made him aim down on his right side i.e. looking with his right eye down the gun?
    If it was intentional, then cool. If not...well, AFAIK left-handed people use left eye for aiming. Though I could be wrong.

    Token Simon is awesome.

    Caleb's right arm below the wrist looks much thicker to me than the left one. Too much one handing?

    Final girl is the best looking one for me - I would do her, unlike the others. Anyway, two problems with her. First - her left arm, the index and middle finger...they just look wrong. Especially the index finger.
    Second, does she suffer from strabismus?

    And yeah, necks.

    Great job all around. I really like them.

    I have an idea - NMAers send you pics, you do us your style. Just kidding.
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  18. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    What the hell, I just discovered a torus mandibularis in my lower jaw (a bony growth, like a tiny horn, but covered with skin), right beneach my right canine, near the base of my tongue, and now I can't un-notice it :I
    How on earth were I unaware of this!? :I
    I just came back from a routine dental check, where I was told my teeth are better than ever, and my dentist had his whole face inside my mouth, so, he probably did not consider it noteworthy, neither is it considered harmful, but - again - how did I not notice this before? :S
  19. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    THanks for the observations Atomkilla, the thing with the gun and aiming with the wrong eye was an accident (I am neither a Lefty nor do I shoot guns so I totally missed that), gotta fix that.
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  20. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    My take on gun-aiming
    It IS very tricky, and I actually stood there and made poses, trying to figure out what the hell goes on when people aim guns... I've seen it a thousand times in movies, suddenly I had no idea what to do :D
    (and safety goggles!) aiming.jpg

    In the end I failed, maybe you'll catch it right away, maybe not, but the arms are not aligned with the body in any way, and she achieves an Escher-esque anatomy. Sigh...