Is NV too much NCR-Sided?

Discussion in 'Fallout: New Vegas Discussion' started by gongos, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. Requete

    Requete First time out of the vault

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    Aug 9, 2006
    Yes City guards not only legion were able to beat the fear of gods into your low level PC. Temple Ordinators epecialy but soldiers in forts were meh... Especialy those orcish mobs in Fort Darius. Anyway it's natural in RPG that wining faction is not best one but best liked by players. Since Keiser Soze Legion didn't win me I'm OK with NCR being central to the game.
     
  2. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Keyser Söze :mrgreen:

    Though I wish the legion even as simple "evil" force would have been fleshed out much more giving you a few or even just one (but therefore WELL WRITEN) companion which could be seen as clear suporter of the legion. Yeah it is kinda strange how in 70% of the locations you will be either hated or atacked when siding with the legion. Doesnt speak much for them though.
     
  3. aguds

    aguds First time out of the vault

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    Oct 20, 2010
    I was just thinking this as I played through the first few hours of my Legion-game. I really only encountered NCR wherever I went, and the only thing to do was of course to kill them all, and all I could do was exchange the tags down at the Cove. There are so many early-game NCR-things to do, but only plain violence if you want to hang with the legion. Disappointing. They could have thrown in more terrorist-like quest, or assassinations or whatever. NV seems to want you to side with NCR and I found that really annoying.
     
  4. Thomas de Aynesworth

    Thomas de Aynesworth Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Nov 9, 2010
    It'd be really cool to be able to *join* the Frumentarii.
     
  5. Black Feather

    Black Feather Mildly Dipped

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    Nov 10, 2010
    With Vulpes Inculta as Follower!
     
  6. Ravager69

    Ravager69 Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 21, 2007
    I hope the Burned Man will make an appearence in a DLC as a Follower. That'd make Legion play pretty cool, assuming he won't want to exact revenge on every Legionaire he sees. Perhaps being able to overthrow Caesar and install Graham in his place?
     
  7. Black Feather

    Black Feather Mildly Dipped

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    Nov 10, 2010
    Yeah, i really hope so too. I think he could be a kinda Darth Vader Figure, wearing some cool badass (power?)armor to hide his burns, turning at his former emperor =)
     
  8. WorstUsernameEver

    WorstUsernameEver But best title ever!

    May 28, 2010
    The game doesn't exactly paint a flattering image of Joshua Graham though. The battle of Hoover Dam loss was his fault after all.
     
  9. OakTable

    OakTable Vault Senior Citizen

    Nov 26, 2009
    I'd prefer Graham to be the strongest companion, but have him be a total asshole who just wants to see people die.
     
  10. White Knight

    White Knight Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    Aug 28, 2010
    ^They did have a companion in Van Buren called the Hanged man who pissed off everybody. The vault even compares Graham with the hanged man. Maybe they might take that from VB
     
  11. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    White Knight, Graham 'is' the Hanged Man.
     
  12. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Well I would like him to be a bit more complex then just that. A tourmented character seeking for peace with him self, both from his past and the hate with the legion (eventually).
     
  13. Thomas de Aynesworth

    Thomas de Aynesworth Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Nov 9, 2010
    + 1

    One dimensional characters with little motivation other than wanting to see people die has no place in a Fallout game, in my opinion.

    Even Orion Moreno is a deep character, and he's the closest thing to it.

    Leave the poorly written characters to Bethesda.
     
  14. AWildmann

    AWildmann It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Sep 12, 2010
    I think he means Van Buren's Hanged Man.
     
  15. Faceless Stranger

    Faceless Stranger Board Drifter

    Aug 19, 2010
    Which is still Graham
     
  16. Dillrod

    Dillrod First time out of the vault

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    Nov 23, 2010
    Fallout New Vegas: The Rise of Billy Graham.

    I know they can't be the same person, and being a descendant probably isn't a point in his character, but I can't help but laugh at the idea of that old preacher killing Fiends with his bare hands.
     
  17. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    Correction: giant, pissed off, hardcore old preacher crushing puny Fiend skulls with his bare hands.
     
  18. generalissimofurioso

    generalissimofurioso The Hole Time Orderite

    Jun 17, 2007
    Correctertion: Giant, pissed off, hardcore old preacher that crushes puny gay Fiend Skulls with his barehand while deciding what Jesus and God would think he's awesome for doing it.

    That and he's made of leather bibles.
     
  19. brfritos

    brfritos Humma Kavulaaaaaaa

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    Sep 8, 2009
    HUGE SPOILERS AHEAD!


    It's funny that if you think logically, only siding with the NCR allows some justification for not wiping out the BoS bunker (of course Col. Moore don't like it, since it was they who put her behind a desk).
    With Yes Man, Legion or House the only outcome is destroying them, there isn't a single argument for not doing it.

    And people say that Veronica character is fan-service.
    So yes, the game towards heavelly to NCR.

    Legion needs a DLC and a huge one, because there's a lot of things missing in their story, motivation, building up, etc.
    Can anyone explain me why only in the last battle they use high-level weaponry, like the Marksman Carbine or Anti-Matherial Rifle, unlike the other factions?
    Also I would like it to see in this DLC a module for the hardcore option that allows you NOT TO GAIN so much experience, making levelling more slow.

    I know that are mods for this (I use them!), but it would be nice if they integrate this in the game.

    [ ]'s
     
  20. Little Robot

    Little Robot sup Orderite

    Sep 29, 2010
    My argument towards not doing it with Yes Man was that they weren't bothering me. And I got very positive endings. I don't think that it's absolutely necessary to wipe them out.