Quakecon 2015: Fallout 4 details

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by TorontoReign, Jul 24, 2015.

  1. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Uhm. I am sorry to say this ... but that is pretty much what they did ... sure FEV, VATS and Vaults exist in the Fallout universe. But that doesn't mean that what Fallout 3 has makes really sense. Like the Encalve, the BoS and SuperMutant research beeing all relocated to a completely different coast thousands of miles away from the actually source... for ... what reason exactly? The things we talk about exist in Fallout. But that is pretty much all of it. Thats where the SM infestation in DC pretty much ends. They had the virus, a vault and that's it! So they are there and kill everyone. The truth is they are savage mutants without any reason to be there. They are only there as target practise. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    I have my own theory why Bethesda decided to add in Super Mutants and also Enclave and BoS to F3. Because otherweise you would have a very very hard time to actually reckognize Fallout 3 actually as a Fallout game and not Oblivion with gunz. The fear from Bethesda, someone could get the idea that it's not a true Sequel! - And they also never got tired of reminding people that this is what they wanted to do. But hey, don't worry it got Supermutants and Enclave and even BoS and a wasteland surounding it and a hell lot of violence! With nukes! Lots of nukes! So it's a Fallout game! That is exactly what those might think that never really played the previous games.
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  2. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    They are keeping it pretty short, i find multiple walls of text the hardest, unless it's a book.
  3. Avra

    Avra First time out of the vault

    Jul 25, 2015
    The american government asked for put some magic of another FEV into a vault for study it later. End of story. I don't see what's the problem with it.

    As a fan I was happy of the choice of Bethesda (mutants, BoS and Enclave) and see them in 3D.
  4. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    A question. Did you liked Mothership Zeta?
  5. Avra

    Avra First time out of the vault

    Jul 25, 2015

    Just the very beggining (thinking it will be funny as Mars Attack) and the very end (high pressure). Between : nope.
  6. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    The reason I am asking is because you can explain everything one way or another into the fallout setting. But for me personaly this "The government did it!" isn't simply enough of an explanation to have the Super Mutants in DC. I could forgive them even that. Really. I could. If they had actually a real meaning and beeing more than just target pratcise and a reason to use your nuclear catapult - I mean it's pretty much expected from you if you play the storyline ...
  7. Theinnerfish

    Theinnerfish Storytelling skeleton

    Jul 25, 2015
    Loooong time stalker here. Never felt any need for registering and always enjoyed reading this site. However i couldn't resist anymore.

    F2 improved almost everything; combat, dialogs, ai... yet story and atmosphere of that game was between silly and imbecile. Talking deathclaws, second-gen mutants, Enclave, robodogs. Explained or not these are much more silly than anything F3 had(and f3 did have some mighty silly things).

    F3 improved only graphics. It's story was imbecile too. I hate losing skills and f*ck you dialog wheel but this doesn't change the fact that F2 was a great game with a great writing and a very stupid setting.

    Why can't we just hate perks, dialog wheel and such together in peace without starting another F1 vs F2 war?:|
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  8. Askorti


    Jun 30, 2015
    Why would the American government put their most guarded secret research into the hands of a private company?
    More, why would they transport this top secret substance through the whole length of the US just to study it in another location, a location that they don't even have ANY jurisdiction over? The Mariposa base was a heavily guarded secret facility with a whole detachment of soldiers to keep it safe. In the meantime Vault 87 was guarded by... no one. And additionally it was owned by a private company. And would be operated by civilians. And the results of the research would come up AFTER the government went to hell in a nuclear war. Don't forget, that the main enclave base was in the Oil Rig, so, again, the whole continent away from DC.
    It. Doesn't. Make. Sense. It's just rubbish excuse to have dumb orcs, just face the facts.
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  9. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Hey just a quick question in between I am wondering; we know from Fallout 2 that the Enclave learned about Mariposa from some old government documents. So it is safe to assume that the Enclave did not monitor this installation before, during, and after the war until the Enclave came to excavate it.

    But did the Enclave monitor all the Vaults? From what I know of Vault City I assume that they monitored Vault 8.
    As for Vault 13, either the Enclave monitored that Vault as well or the Vault Overseers had clear instructions from the start on how to run society there until they would be contacted by the government (Enclave) again.

    But the other Vaults, where they still on some kind of network the Enclave had access to in order to collect information?
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  10. Emperor

    Emperor Simplesmente Rajuma

    Aug 4, 2013
    Well the Enclave sent an all clear signal to Vault 8/ Vault City so is speculated that they had some form of communication to collect information from the Vaults.
  11. Kilus

    Kilus Not Australian Orderite

    May 3, 2003
    If Bethesda adds talking Deathclaws we'll lay down some mad beats.
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  12. PossibleCabbage

    PossibleCabbage Vault 22 Survivor

    Jul 2, 2015
    I could get behind Hip-Hop Deathclaws as a faction in Fallout 4. Best east coast crew since the Wu-Tang Clan.
  13. Graham2077

    Graham2077 It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Sep 16, 2014
    I honestly never had a problem with talking Deathclaws. I thought it was an interesting concept, and having a Deathclaw as a companion was fucking awesome.
  14. Hardboiled Android

    Hardboiled Android Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 7, 2015
    Vault Tec was essentially an arm of the geovernment towards the end.
  15. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    It's the Adventure of Fallout and it's really bad, the creatures of the Enclave are really RAD!
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  16. Emperor

    Emperor Simplesmente Rajuma

    Aug 4, 2013
    Then it's pointless to further argue.

    Clearly you haven't played Fallout 2 :razz:
  17. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I doubt he even played the first one if he doesn't know about the Psykers either.
  18. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Deathclaws! What you gona do when they come for you!
  19. Hexhammer

    Hexhammer First time out of the vault

    Jul 20, 2015
    I'm so tempted to say something about the coming Failout 4.... I think to do so is extremely stupid on this thread and its a waste of energy anyway, there's better stuff to talk about.... BUT, I can't resists.

    Everything considered, FO4 seems to be FO3 on steroids and even more fucked up in places where it shouldn't. All the stuff Beth are making public further enforces the idea that, this is nothing more than Skyrim + guns + FO3 remade with slightly better graphics. All the flashy cool cool cool awesome action shooter bs is right there. Let me guess, the player will also be nearly immortal tank with demigod mode so that players can nicely float forward without breaking their confort bubble on the way by fucking up something, or god forbid, dying.

    My prediction is more FO3, just repackaged with more cool awesome flashy cinematic trendy BS... Why did I even bother to type all this? Maybe to just vent a bit... There's no hope for decent fallout game as long as its in the hands o Bethsoft I guess. Updates on FO1/FO2 mods are way higher on my list... Those wont even cost anything.
  20. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Not Gollum Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    So instead of Dragonborn we have the Vault Dweller Power Armored Demigod. It looks to be true.
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