Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Ediros, Jun 13, 2021.

Are you going to be a Bethesdafag?

  1. Yes.

    4 vote(s)
  2. No.

    34 vote(s)
  3. I am a hypocrite.

    12 vote(s)
  4. I like to whine a lot about things I am the reason for sucking.

    7 vote(s)
  1. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Besthesda is gotta bethesda. Bugs are features with their games at this point.
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  2. Norzan

    Norzan So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Apr 7, 2017
    Fallout 76 got more blacklash for being a poorly designed mess than a buggy mess (even if the bugs were heavily criticized), so if that game was the usual shit like Fallout 3 and 4, i.e a single player game, people would have been far more forgiving to it and certainly wouldn't minded the bugs (Skyrim had a legit gamebreaking bug at release and yet people were sucking that game's dick).

    So if Starfield comes out bugged up the ass but still satisfies their core audience, they are not gonna give a shit if people criticize the game for being buggy.
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  3. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    "Modders will fix it" has become an unspoken slogan for them.
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  4. Risewild

    Risewild Antediluvian as Feck
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    Yeah... We're still actively fixing Fallout 3 bugs to this day. :confused:
  5. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    And you are paying for the privilege lol

    Snark aside, I am actually very curious about what comes out of this. Even if I don't have any hopes for it being anything more than a new plataform for mods for me. I will probably not buy ti at full price tho.
  6. Alphons

    Alphons National Beholder

    Aug 9, 2017
    Woah, a 30 minute unscripted gameplay that shows Starfield's in-depth roleplaying systems:

    Nah, just a PR video.

    Guy that replaced Emil when they made Far Harbor is lead quest designer. Emil is design director.

    Don't forget to pre-order the canvas bags!
  7. Norzan

    Norzan So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Apr 7, 2017
    Please let the whole thing be a complete and utter shitshow with tons of controversies. That is far more entertaining than whatever this game can be.
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  8. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Guest

    HAHAHAH COSTELLATION is the most astronomical sounding thing they could come up with.
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  9. Alphons

    Alphons National Beholder

    Aug 9, 2017
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  10. Norzan

    Norzan So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Apr 7, 2017
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  11. ironmask

    ironmask A Smooth-Skin

    Mar 10, 2018
    So which family member are we chasing after this time. Our mom, our cousin, or our daughter?
  12. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Slippy sloppy, The

    Sep 11, 2010
    Nah we're finding god this time around. It's all going to be christian allegories.
  13. The_Proletarian

    The_Proletarian Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
    Staff Member Admin

    Mar 15, 2012
    Game is delayed until 2023:

  14. Iprovidelittlepianos

    Iprovidelittlepianos Vault Senior Citizen

    May 12, 2020
    I’m surprised they didn’t delay it until 11/22/33
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  15. PaxVenire

    PaxVenire Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Oct 29, 2020
    Judging by how much people eat up modern Star Trek and kiss the ass of the new Star Wars trilogy, I’m willing to bet this game comes out and gets GOTY for writing.

    Science fiction doesn’t have to be smart anymore guys, bad writing or inconsistencies will be shrugged off as “Erm.. it’s a space adventure dude.”

    Now that I think about it, Emil would be perfect for the New Trek writing team.
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  16. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Because there's no 22nd month.
  17. eissa

    eissa Artanis "Altáriel" Nerwen Nos Finwe

    Jan 7, 2016
    That's MM/DD/YY format. I bet he's from USA.
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  18. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Guest

    Big bonus points if they partner up with Star Trek for some dumb DLC.
  19. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    I'm aware, it was a joke about missing the more obvious joke in there ;)
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  20. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Yeah, science fiction has really been in decline as has space opera as Star Wars isn't really science fiction.
    Star Trek used to be about introducing scientific and speculated science in an entertaining way to people while telling stories with with social allegories.
    Star Wars, especially its spin off material was about exciting adventures that took people to strange and fantastic places with un-imagined creatures.

    But when Star Trek now is not finger wagging, it tells stories lacking anything remotely scientific or imaginative, while Star Wars even before Disney bought the IP was more and more about the Jedi-vs-Sith and space politics.

    And now characters all need to be broken or having dark pasts with most of the filler stories being about their personal dramas, conflicts with other people, manipulation, backstabbing.

    Of course characters need to be interesting in order to make the audience want to know more about them, but there is so much focus on them that placing this in space or on fantastic worlds feels unnecessary as we don't get to see much of it any way.

    Space adventure like with fantasy is no excuse for bad writing in which any setting rules and structure is abandoned anytime the writer feels like it, especially as often their excuses to do so are pretty bad. Their original thoughts are not that good.

    Both IPs are also more about mining their own established lore, recycling old elements, rather than do any new world building, something Bethesda has also been doing in Fallout 3 and 4, just recycling the past.
    Here is the BOS again, and a new Super Mutant army, and the Enclave that despite its losses is still going strong, and a world that never improves, and 50s references, and people who seem to be disconnected from reality.

    I have no high expectations of Starfield's setting. Most likely it will quite clumsily rip off other well known sci fi settings.
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