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Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Serge 13, Nov 20, 2011.
So the reddit thread was completely true, then?
It turns out the leaks that every single piece of new released marketing material in someway confirmed a new part of said leak was 100% correct. Subverted my expectations.
It was super funny searching Jedipaxis on twitter, finding someone calling him a liar a few days ago and then going on their timeline and seeing a meltdown.
Although I don't know how it really was depicted in the leaks, I was surprised that the movie pretty much starts right off at Exegol with Kylo Ren meeting Palpatine and the Sith fleet being revealed. No build-up, no mystery, nothing. Just straight up Exegol. But then again, the first half of this movie should have been the last movie, really. Also, how the hell could Palpatine just build hundreds of fresh new Star Destroyers on a very remote world with no resources and population for crew (which is still several thousand per ship)?
Don't ask questions, just CONSUME. And don't forget to pick up the new Dark Rey Funko.
Ah, the poor Reylo shippers... They be mad now. Although they got a few seconds of beanflicking-material to go on.
It's incredible how little I care for this shit fest.
What I really care for is the Dune movie by the director that made Blade Runner 2049 which was my highlight. A movie I expected nothing from. But that gave me everything.
Speaking of which, apparently Oscar Isaac, the actor playing Poe, is in it, too.
Looking forward to that one for sure.
A faithful adaption of Dune! That would be great indeed.
Dunno about "faithful"; Dune has so much internal monologue and weird shit going on that it's gonna be really hard to do it really faithfully. But Villeneuve seems like a passionate guy with a certain vision, and I guess if anyone can do Dune justice at the moment, I'd put my money on him.
Denis Villeneuve has done only good movies so far, so I am optimistic about Dune.
I think a big THEME of TROS was "forgetting".
Spoiler: Heavy Ep. IX spoilerinos
Like, Rey forgetting that she flies now when she tries to get to the Wayfinder. The Resistance attack on Exegol forgetting that those open, exposed antennas for the Sith fleet nav signal could be, maybe, dunno, destroyed by any of the hundreds of little armed ships they brought. Even by the ships that dropped the goddamn cavalry charge. Did they forget that their ships fly and that they could drop their payload directly next to the antenna, if they have to do it like that instead just using a fighter and womp-ratting the things? They make it clear that there are no shields. There are constantly ships flying above them when they're doing the cavalry charge on top of the Star Destroyer.
Also, did they forget that Anakin was kinda sorta Palpatine's son now, too, under Disney's new canon? Did they forget the story of Darth Plagueis the Wise? Or did they want to add the whole incest angle from the OT again, now with Anakin's grandson and his niece snogging it up?
Did Leia forget that she's more powerful than Luke (she beats Luke handily in a flashback) and only started to train Rey later when she suddenly remembered (only to die from boredom quickly after, I guess)? Why even train Rey, she's already better than anyone, ever? Accidentally using force-lighting to destroy a medium sized ship after Kylo stopped her from just force-pulling it back to the ground, beating Kylo Ren to a stand-still and death so many times, casually using the force to rapidly miracle-heal any wound because why not?
And all the force ghosts are just now cool with interacting physically with the real world now? Luke just casually catches his lightsaber as Rey wants to throw it away (nice shade on TLJ there, though) and casually lifts his X-Wing out of the water. Oh yeah, and did they forget that those X-Wings kinda require an astromech droid for hyperspace travel? They're basically the nav-computers on these.
Don't think about the movie too much. Like time travel it makes less and less sense the closer you look. Let's just be glad that it's over.
Although I find it hilarious how the trilogy ended up being a slapfight between JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson. Abrams came in with his typical arm full of mystery boxes and set up a story. They might even had something vaguely planned at that point. But then Rian Johnson subverted their expectations and decided to shit on absolutely everything. He got BTFO'd and Abrams returned, trying to salvage the franchise, and shat on much of Rian's "themes".
My prediction is that Kathleen Kennedy will quietly step down or put to work somewhere else once the dust settles, and Rian Johnson will be making only indie movies from now on.
So the entire arc of this flaccid trilogy was to recycle the villain of the previous 2 trilogies?
That's the perfect picture of modern Holywood.
The entire arc of Anakin is undermined by this episode.
Honestly, the more I hear about Cats, the more I was smoke a spliff and watch it
Sounds like a good waste of a spliff.
Before I'd ask, who would be willing to spend the money to make a Dune movie knowing you'd only make back like 1/8th your investment, but then I remember Hollywood loves wasting Millions upon Millions of dollars on shit nobody wants to watch, why not make that shit good?
I'm also pretty sure all that money wasting is some kind of tax con, kinda like the one Uwe Boll played on the German Government with how he got funding for his movies.
Big news it was already undermined in attack of the clones where he was written as a psychopath from the start.
He kills children and admits to padme he wants moar power and supports the idea of a facist regime and then she wants to act surprised when he kills more children and starts a facist regime in the next movie.
Anakin's character Arc was broken from the moment it was concieved.
Why are people acting like star wars is only just now being terrible and whoring itself out?
I think they're expecting a good profit from Dune, actually. It's still a beloved and influential universe, and even though it's notoriously hard to adapt, the fact that they put Villeneuve in charge makes me think they expect something more than just some money laundering scheme. After Arrival and BR2049, I think he can do it justice. Somewhere between the weirdness of the Lynch adaptation and the follow-the-story of the TV movies. I sure hope he uses more weird visuals like Lynch did, Dune is strange and requires that shit.