What are some of your unpopular opinions?

[Mr Fish]

how?

radioactive material in enclosed space gets blown up, blasted into the air

I remember this story once where if you want your apartment to have a nice vanilla smell you can put a small amount of vanilla extract into your oven and it will cause the liquid to turn into gas and flow out of the oven but she had too much vanilla extract and so once all was said and done the apartment stunk of it. I dunno how FEV works on a liquid and gaseous level but maybe the radioactive element in it (the smell of vanilla) is expanded upon in a gaseous form.

Of course, why isn't Mariposa radioactive as The Glow is after the events of Fallout 1?
No idea.

Could be a nuclear reactor that got cracked?
Could be waste storage that got cracked open too.
Could be the S'Lanter farted too much on their way out.

 

[Tenebris]

radioactive material in enclosed space gets blown up, blasted into the air

I remember this story once where if you want your apartment to have a nice vanilla smell you can put a small amount of vanilla extract into your oven and it will cause the liquid to turn into gas and flow out of the oven but she had too much vanilla extract and so once all was said and done the apartment stunk of it. I dunno how FEV works on a liquid and gaseous level but maybe the radioactive element in it (the smell of vanilla) is expanded upon in a gaseous form.

Of course, why isn't Mariposa radioactive as The Glow is after the events of Fallout 1?
No idea.

a better question is why is there a self destruct option in a military base? why is there a nuke in los angeles vault? and how nuclear plant melt down cause a nuclear blast in the oil rig? probably SIENCE! and 90s comics logic

Could be a nuclear reactor that got cracked?
Could be waste storage that got cracked open too.
Could be the S'Lanter farted too much on their way out.

i think it is the third one

 

[Mr Fish]

a better question is why there is self destruct option in a military base? why is there a nuke in los angeles vault? and how nuclear plant melt down cause a nuclear blast in the oil rig? probably SIENCE! and 90s comics logic

Honestly, I think it's just because nukes are cool and they went with the rule of cool. A big bang is a satisfying climax.

Easiest explanation for them is probably that at that time of war (Mariposa was a recent construction) maybe scorched earth was a strategy that was becoming more common place as a tactic. If the Chinese invade then why let them take what we have? If we're gonna lose Mariposa then let's just blow it up. It was a research center for finding a serum to create super soldiers after all. Don't want that falling into the wrong hands. I think a bigger question is why didn't Maxxy use it when they left the facility if the experiments were so inhumane that they were willing to defect from the US military over it?

And the nuke in the cathedral? Unity probably found it at some point as they went out looking for hardware to use and the Master ordered it to be brought into one of their strongholds for safekeeping in case they needed to use it. Why Cathedral over Mariposa? Easiest explanation? Nuke was probably found closer to Cathedral than Mariposa, so easier to lug it to one than the other I guess. [edit] Or is it a nuke or a nuclear reactor? I can't remember, I always go fisticuff the Master or debate him, I only ever did the nuke option once. If it's a nuclear reactor then that's what powers the place. How does it turn into a nuke? lol, big bang!

I have no idea how to explain the Oil Rig explosion however. I've never been that into the Enclave so it's not something I think a lot about.

But like I said I think the primary reason is just because nukes == cool and they wanted a rule of cool ending climax.

 

[Gizmojunk]

a better question is why is there a self destruct option in a military base?

Because if something (like a lethal virus for instance) ever got out of control, they can destroy it from within; before it escapes to the outside.
The same could apply to the base being overrun, and soon to be lost; tech & equipment lost with it.

 

[Tenebris]

Easiest explanation for them is probably that at that time of war (Mariposa was a recent construction) maybe scorched earth was a strategy that was becoming more common place as a tactic. If the Chinese invade then why let them take what we have? If we're gonna lose Mariposa then let's just blow it up. It was a research center for finding a serum to create super soldiers after all. Don't want that falling into the wrong hands. I think a bigger question is why didn't Maxxy use it when they left the facility if the experiments were so inhumane that they were willing to defect from the US military over it?

him letting the vats as it is was against the core believe of his faction, i didn't read his diary since my last playthrough long time ago but i think he wanted to take the opportunity to make a cult around knights templar culture and didn't care about the fev that much, also the way he killed the scientists without thinking then after days "oh no what i have done!" made me think he is psychopath or something

 

[Iprovidelittlepianos]

The bomb should have been at the bottom, unexploded.

And the nuke in the cathedral? Unity probably found it at some point as they went out looking for hardware to use and the Master ordered it to be brought into one of their strongholds for safekeeping in case they needed to use it. Why Cathedral over Mariposa? Easiest explanation? Nuke was probably found closer to Cathedral than Mariposa, so easier to lug it to one than the other I guess.

Interesting… did the Master/Unity ever make it to the Glow?

 

[Tenebris]

Interesting… did the Master/Unity ever make it to the Glow?

no, they didn't fart south

 

[PaxVenire]

I suppose this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't really care about ultra scientific accuracy with Fallout. I hate the classic game's and Fallout Bible's explanation of FEV being a factor for the reason for mutant life in the wasteland. It's very limiting to California and the West in general when you take classic lore as gospel and probably one of the many lazy reasons Bethesda dropped FEV all over the East as well. I'm perfectly fine with the more general audience belief that just radiation induced mutation creates some of the crazier wildlife and Ghouls (which I know is highly contended in the FEV/Radiation debate) while FEV specifically creates abominations like Super Mutants, Floaters, Centaurs, etc.
If there has to be another factor when it comes to explaining away the wasteland fauna/flora, instead of FEV it should've just been the New Plague since that was a national, possibly global epidemic and doesn't require being near the region of Mariposa during the Great War.

 

[Tenebris]

I suppose this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't really care about ultra scientific accuracy with Fallout

you should care about science more than SCIENCE! or you will get things like fallout 3 geck or sierra madre vending machine, too much soft science can hurt the setting if it wasn't so much established like that in the first entry, still i don' mind it, i like psychic power, but hey should be FEV only

I hate the classic game's and Fallout Bible's explanation of FEV being a factor for the reason for mutant life in the wasteland. It's very limiting to California and the West in general when you take classic lore as gospel and probably one of the many lazy reasons Bethesda dropped FEV all over the East as well. I'm perfectly fine with the more general audience belief that just radiation induced mutation creates some of the crazier wildlife and Ghouls (which I know is highly contended in the FEV/Radiation debate) while FEV specifically creates abominations like Super Mutants, Floaters, Centaurs, etc.
If there has to be another factor when it comes to explaining away the wasteland fauna/flora, instead of FEV it should've just been the New Plague since that was a national, possibly global epidemic and doesn't require being near the region of Mariposa during the Great War.

to be fair the lieutenant getting conclusion of airborne fev make sense to his perspective but the whole games says radiation, hell even the enclave don't mention shit about it, so why believing in it?

 

[PaxVenire]

or you will get things like fallout 3 geck or sierra madre vending machine

I'm fine with these, they don't bother me to be honest.