So in the end, did the Super Mutants add to anything?

Discussion in 'Fallout 3 Discussion' started by The Dutch Ghost, May 11, 2009.

  1. The Enclave 86

    The Enclave 86 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Jul 5, 2010
    I agree with everything... except the part about the Enclave at the end of course. Enclave have Vertibirds (far too fucking many but whatever) for transportation of goods and to recruit mainlanders in any sense would be silly, the Enclave don't need them and to comprimise on something like that. What would be better is if they had no stupid radio at all, I hypothesised that it was Eden simply LARPing being a real President and not a machine which gained power through a poorly explained mechanism, which I can only assume is the Presidential Line of Succession. The broadcasts had the potential to draw unncessary attention to the Enclave and risk lives. Fuck Eden.
     
  2. Dirty_Harry

    Dirty_Harry First time out of the vault

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    Apr 15, 2011
    All F3 super mutants added is one more reason for us fallout fans to be pissed, i mean not the super mutants existence in the game but the reason they were there, didn't make any sense, they just said:

    - super mutants...cool, let's put them in the game

    Pisses me off
     
  3. The Enclave 86

    The Enclave 86 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Jul 5, 2010
    As well as make the Vaults actual experiments as opposed to social ones... fuckers.
     
  4. Dirty_Harry

    Dirty_Harry First time out of the vault

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    Apr 15, 2011
    Couldn't agree more
     
  5. Quagmire69

    Quagmire69 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Mar 17, 2011
    The mutants don't complete the Enclave cannon wise, but as far as story wise in what the player is thinking, thier perfect. If it was not for them thier would be no reason the player would be tempted to infect the water. Thier would not be that much of a compelling arguement if the mutant threat was just abunch of old ghould hiding in underworld. Playing it I wondered if Eden was right, the Brotherhood are losing the war of attrition. How many of lyons brotherhood do you see, 50 maybe, 100 tops, but the mutants are everywhere. The Mutants are compelling because even though the Enclave are bastards the brotherhood are out of thier league.
     
  6. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    The Mutants mostly have very useless locations under their power, none of the places they occupy serve any porpuse for anything, The capitol is completely worthless, The barracks near the Washington Monument are even more useless, they occupy some random tunnels, and a destroyed house, the only moment they actualy become a liability is when you figth them inside the Jeferson Memorial.
    So they don't actualy complement each other in the story or canon, but THEY DO according to.... well according of what you would like for it to be? The mutants in FO3 are not compelling, they have no plan, no porpouse, no tactics, nothing,they are not even a treat to the PC or most BoS NPCs, they are just random minibosses for you to fight.
     
  7. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    yeah ... that is the sad truth. There was nothing behind the SMs in Fallout 3 except the "HURR DURR MOAR HOAMANS TO KILL/EAT/DIP !!!"

    Your random generic orc. Nothing more. Nothing less.
     
  8. Not Lost Hope

    Not Lost Hope First time out of the vault

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    Mar 26, 2010
    I've seen very little cannons in the fallout games I've played. You opened up that one place in F2 with a howitzer, which I guess counts as a cannon, but I still don't get it why half the guys in this thread go on and on about cannons.
     
  9. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    They are going on about canon, not cannon.
     
  10. vanzizzle

    vanzizzle It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Feb 15, 2010
    Well considering in this non canonical world, there is a different strain of FEV, right? Then how is it wrong if they behave differently? Just my 2c.

    I personally only thought of them as an income of xp, ammo and caps.
     
  11. Not Lost Hope

    Not Lost Hope First time out of the vault

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    Mar 26, 2010
    You'd think so, but if you look closely there's a lot of misspelling going on around here, so I figured I should be a smartass about it.
     
  12. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    They really shoe-horned the FEV in.

    I suggest someone make a mod to change the super mutants skin to brown or something and their origin from FEV mutants to genetically engineered human super soldiers. And they can reproduce.

    Because I found it weird that the Super Mutants could actually make more of themselves. Last time I heard FEV was hard to come by. And with reproduction they can do it easily.

    Hey, did I just solve the strange backstory/plotholes of the super mutants in F3?
     
  13. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    ^^^^

    Still would have preferred an original opponent instead.
    Or to be honest, no Bethesda's Fallout 3.

    I know you mean well but please no more projects to create genetically engineered super soldiers in Fallout.
    There was only FEV and that was it, and it was created and mass produced on the West Coast.

    No other FEV producing facilities anywhere else in North America or the Fallout world for that matter, so no Chinese attempts at creating their own super soldiers.

    Whenever people come up with such plots it makes me more think that people lack the creativity to come up with their own ideas and perhaps better not try to come up with them.

    Its not meant as an insult, sometimes you are simply better in other matters.
    My friend Kevin is great at ActionScript but I honestly suck at it to the point that I feel like an idiot when I try to write from my own memories, doesn't mean I am incompetent at everything.
     
  14. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    You don't like genetically engineered super soldiers?

    How about this: In vault 87, the people slowly reverted back to their animal instincts, and they evolved into these super mutants (only brown) over time.

    I'd like it.
     
  15. The Enclave 86

    The Enclave 86 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Jul 5, 2010
    Christ Vault 87 really has to be one of the most illogical places in F3.

    1. I was completed in 2071, four years before FEV even become FEV and was still the PIV.

    2. Directly violates the Vaults being Enclave-monitered social experiments.

    3. It was only militarised in Jan 2077, so they then gave it to Vault-Tec to massively redesign a Vault to test it in there; oh and if you read some of the terminal entries the Vault was closed and testing on it's inhabitants before the bombs had even dropped as one of the scientists makes reference to Vault-Tec and Mariposa being on his back. Not, you know, the Enclave whom have already been established as the Experiments creator and continued monitering them from the ENCLAVE.

    An absolute mess.
     
  16. Stanislao Moulinsky

    Stanislao Moulinsky Vault Fossil

    Jul 16, 2009
    It was also ridicolous because, as you noted, now the Vaults closed months before the war but their experiments still started immediately after they closed. So...what if the bombs never fell? How would they hid to the general public the experiments? Hell, in the case of Vault 87 what if they ran out of test subjects? They would simply re-open the vault and let new people in?

    A mess, indeed.
     
  17. Faceless Stranger

    Faceless Stranger Board Drifter

    Aug 19, 2010
    Not to mention the "green stuff" the orcs always go on about that doesn't actually exist.
     
  18. Wintermind

    Wintermind Vault Senior Citizen

    Jan 21, 2011
    You. I like you.
     
  19. Quagmire69

    Quagmire69 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Mar 17, 2011
    The supermutants are the anchor for the fallout storyline. Without the supermutants then why would be the brotherhood by in DC in the first place.
     
  20. Faceless Stranger

    Faceless Stranger Board Drifter

    Aug 19, 2010
    The Pentagon, but that's another story in itself.